If so why did they succeed under Clinton yet fail so miserably under Bush?
On Apr 16, 4:44 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > These practices beagn under Clinton, > > On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > LMAO, as you see the argument slipping away, the insults begin. > > > Once again Obama INHERITED these Bail outs > > he did not create them.. try again. > > > The AIG Bailout began in 2008 > > The Auto Bailout Began in 2008 > > The TARP Bailout began in 2008 > > The Merrill Lynch Bailout Began in 2008 > > The majority of the additional spending was already > > COMMITTED before Obama took office. > > > On Apr 16, 4:06 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hey SugarShack: > > > > Here ya go: > > > >http://www.federalbudget.com/ > > > > This is all Obama's..... > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:53 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Really? > > > > > The AIG Bailout began in 2008 > > > > The Auto Bailout Began in 2008 > > > > The TARP Bailout began in 2008 > > > > The Merrill Lynch Bailout Began in 2008 > > > > The majority of the additional spending was already > > > > COMMITTED before Obama took office. > > > > > You want to try again with this erroneous statement > > > > or better yet you want to supply FACTS proving this statement? > > > > > On Apr 16, 3:31 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Except for the current Administration who within less than 90 days, > > > > > has > > > > > expanded the federal bureauacracy ten fold, and increased the size of > > > > > the > > > > > budget larger than all budgets combined in our entire 230 year > > > > > history. > > > > > President Obama makes George Bush look like a fiscal conservative, > > > > > and we > > > > > all know that he wasn't. The point being, is that your comparison is > > > > > moot. America made a mistake, and it is time to limit the damage now > > > > > Sean!!! > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Sounds great but we all have seen what REALLY happens when > > > > > > Republicans > > > > > > have no one to challenge their fiscal actions or policies. They > > > > > > doubled the Debt > > > > > > took a budget surplus and turned it into a record deficit and grew > > > > > > government > > > > > > faster than any other Administration in history. > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 3:13 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > What point does this make? That Clinton was a Tax & Spend > > > > > > > Democrat, > > > > > > wherein > > > > > > > a Republican Congress and their "Contract With America" held his > > > > > > > feet > > > > to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fire? > > > > > > > > Nothing in this audio report disputes the facts that I submitted > > > > earlier. > > > > > > > You have Newt Gingrich, and a Republican controlled Congress that > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > responsible for a budgetary surplus, period. Clinton had literally > > > > > > nothing > > > > > > > to do with the surplus, and if it were not for a Republican > > > > controlled > > > > > > > fiscally conservative Congress, who Clinton successfully fought > > > > > > > over > > > > and > > > > > > > vetoed their balanced budget Amendments, we would have had deficit > > > > > > > spending!! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:08 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > I will let the actual news reports of November 11, 1995 > > > > > > > > make my point. > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6KRnWkh45U&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcrooksan. > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > Clinton invested in the future US economy and the result was > > > > > > > > robust GDP growth that grew the economy out of deficits. > > > > > > > > Republicans consider this incorrectly as wasted money. > > > > > > > > > Bush decided to give the surplus away as tax cuts to > > > > > > > > the rich with the ridiculous idea that the money would > > > > > > > > bleed down to others. The result was Bush starved the > > > > > > > > country of much needed future investments. > > > > > > > > > Obama now must maintain the normal amout of forward > > > > > > > > investment in the country's future AND make up for the > > > > > > > > 8 years Bush starved the economy of stimulus investment > > > > > > > > capital. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 2:01 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Sean!! > > > > > > > > > > Good to see ya!! > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for sharing your homoerotic far left extremist > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > points > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the group! I know that members such as Fritzie, Biffie, > > > > > > > > > Cosmo-ie > > > > and > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > far left extremists are proud of you for picking up on and > > > > mimicking > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > likes of that gal who is the husband and splashes diesel > > > > > > > > > behind > > > > her > > > > > > ears > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > perfume....Whuz-Her-Name....Rachael Maddow, and the other > > > > > > > > > crazed, > > > > > > > > demented > > > > > > > > > Moonbat, Keithie Olberman, but I digress. > > > > > > > > > > Let's review your premise, and I quote: > > > > > > > > > > "That the Republican Congress was NOT the reason for this > > > > balanced > > > > > > > > > budget (during > > > > > > > > > the Clinton Administration). That Clinton stood up to the > > > > > > > > > Rhino's > > > > > > (Rhino > > > > > > > > > being a derogatory term for Republican)" > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > > > > > Sean, let us actually review the facts, and not revisionist > > > > history. > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > course, all of the data I have attached here can be > > > > > > > > > documented. > > > > > > Please > > > > > > > > feel > > > > > > > > > free to ask questions if there is anything that you get > > > > > > > > > confused > > > > on > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > frustrated over not comprehending: > > > > > > > > > > It is true, that the federal budget deficit tumbled from $255 > > > > > > billion in > > > > > > > > > 1993 to approximately $117 billion in 1996, and that by 1999, > > > > there > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > actual surplus versus a deficit in our national budget. > > > > > > > > > > In February 1993 President Clinton announced his new > > > > Administration's > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > economic program: a $16-billion "fiscal stimulus." The > > > > > > > > > spending > > > > > > package > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > later abandoned by the Democratic Congress as too fiscally > > > > > > irresponsible. > > > > > > > > > > In February 1993 President Clinton wins passage of his > > > > $250-billion > > > > > > tax > > > > > > > > > hike; which New York Senator Pat Moynihan accurately > > > > > > > > > describes as > > > > > > "the > > > > > > > > > largest tax increase in world history." > > > > > > >http://www.archive.org/stream/proposedconstitu00unit/proposedconstitu. > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > Nevertheless, President Clinton's "Tax and Spend" policy > > > > > > > > > passes > > > > the > > > > > > > > Democrat > > > > > > > > > Controlled Congress, without a single Republican vote. The > > > > package > > > > > > > > contains > > > > > > > > > approximately $2 of new spending for every $1 of new taxes. > > > > > > > > > > In September 1993 the Clinton White House lobbies to defeat > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > bi-partisan > > > > > > > > > Penny - Kasich deficit-reduction bill, which would have cut > > > > federal > > > > > > > > spending > > > > > > > > > and the deficit by $90 billion over five years. The Clinton > > > > White > > > > > > House > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the Democrat controlled Congress prevailed, and the > > > > > > > > > Penny-Kasich > > > > > > Deficit > > > > > > > > > Reduction Bill was defeated. > > > > > > > > > >http://www.archive.org/details/pennykasichamend00unit > > > > > > > > > > In January 1994 Bill and Hillary Clinton unveil "ClintonCare." > > > > The > > > > > > > > proposed > > > > > > > > > hostile federal takeover of one-seventh of the U.S. economy > > > > > > > > > would > > > > add > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > least $700 billion to the deficit over the next six years, > > > > according > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Congressional Budget Office (CBO). > > > > > > > > > >http://www.heritage.org/research/healthcare/bg1276.cfm > > > > > > > > > > In September 1994 the President furiously lobbies liberal > > > > Democrats > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Congress to oppose a Balanced Budget Amendment -- a measure > > > > supported > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > 75 > > > > > > > > > per cent of the American public. Labor Secretary Robert Reich > > > > > > > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > too honest when he confirms most Americans' suspicions about > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > Administration: "The President is against simply balancing the > > > > > > budget." > > > > >http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+red-ink+blues.(budget)-a017863046 > > > > > > > > > >http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7416/tales.html > > > > > > > > > > In October 1994 President Clinton signs into law his > > > > > > > > > $30-billion > > > > > > "crime > > > > > > > > > bill." The Los Angeles Times describes the legislation as a > > > > > > > > > "once-in-a-lifetime federal spending bonanza" containing "a > > > > > > > > > vast > > > > > > array of > > > > > > > > > new social programs" including federally funded exotic-dance > > > > classes, > > > > > > > > > sensitivity-training courses, and midnight-basketball leagues. > > > > The > > > > > > cost > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the Clinton bill has to be shaved after the Democratic House > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Representatives rejects the original version as too expensive. > > > > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/18/us/the-1994-campaign-the-president-. > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > In January 1995 Bill Clinton submits a 1996 budget plan that > > > > calls > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > $12 > > > > > > > > > trillion of spending over the next seven years and > > > > > > > > > $200-billion > > > > > > deficits > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > as far as the eye can see. 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