dick, You post certainly gives no evidence of that.
On May 1, 12:28 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Probably a whole lot better than you do. > > > > VT VirtualTruth wrote: > > LMAO.... > > > Then what does this mean in your mind? > > > OBAMA SIGNS BILLS AND CREATES NEW LAWS DISARMING AMERICANS NATIONWIDE > > AND SUBMITS USA LAWS TO UNITED NATIONS CONTROL > > > Do you KNOW how bills become law? > > > On May 1, 12:44 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Did not have anything to do with its being passed. I don't want it > >> passed. I merely said I don't like the sounds of this one and if it is > >> introduced there is at least some chance it might be passed. Got my > >> dislike in early on the subject. > >> Do you > >> Hollywood wrote: > > >>> dick, > > >>> Funny, the article says the bill was INTRODUCED. Said nothing at all > >>> about it being passed by Congress and signed into actual law by the > >>> President. A typo on your part I'm sure. > >>> US laws subject to UN control? Bull-fucking-shit. Show me where such a > >>> law was passed by Congress and signed into law by the President. > > >>> BTW, I would be very much against such a law and will e-mail my > >>> Congressman and Senators advising them to NOT vote for it. > > >>> On May 1, 10:35 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Subject:More on HR45 > > >>>> Anti-Mullah <http://noiri.blogspot.com/> > > >>>> OBAMA SIGNS BILLS AND CREATES NEW LAWS DISARMING AMERICANS NATIONWIDE > >>>> AND SUBMITS USA LAWS TO UNITED NATIONS CONTROL > >>>> <http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-signs-bills-and-creates-new-l...> > > >>>> Posted: 30 Apr 2009 11:40 AM PDT > > >>>> *OBA-HUSSEIN-KHOMEINI, making sure that he makes the Constitutional > >>>> right to bear arms by new legislation totally impossible, > > >>>> H E R E- I T- C O M E S !!! - HR45 Gun Licensing Bill > >>>> HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009 > > >>>> ... this is "Obama's Gun Control by Secrecy". * > >>>> ** > >>>> *Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into > >>>> the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act > >>>> of 2009.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *We heard this yesterday on the Peter Boyles radio program.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *_/Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying > >>>> under the radar/_.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *To find out about this go to any government website and type in HR 45 > >>>> or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of > >>>> 2009. You will get all the information. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with > >>>> a clip or ANY pistol unless: It is registered.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You are fingerprinted.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You supply a current Driver's License.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You supply your Social Security #.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their > >>>> choosing.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must > >>>> be reported and costs $25. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and > >>>> are subject up to a year in jail.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a > >>>> child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child > >>>> under 18. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *The Government would have the right to come and inspect that you are > >>>> storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is > >>>> punishable for up to 5 years in prison. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *The gun owner's license would expire in 5 years and would _not_ > >>>> automatically renew.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of > >>>> many options to read this ...* > >>>> ** > >>>> *http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/textItislengthy. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word > >>>> along.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *FAILURE TO DO SO AT YOUR PERIL!* > >>>> ** > >>>> *This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and > >>>> disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a > >>>> little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone > >>>> realizes it. * > >>>> ** > >>>> *It's another example of the slowly-boiled frog: put a frog in a pan of > >>>> water and slowly heat it; the frog will be boiled to death without > >>>> realizing it. This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not. The > >>>> Second Amendment: America's original homeland security.* > >>>> ** > >>>> *You may phone the U.S. Capitol Switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A > >>>> switchboard operator will connect you directly with the Senate office > >>>> you request. > >>>> * > > >>>> ** > > >>>> *ALSO* > > >>>> /Just received this from a friend. Haven't heard anything about this > >>>> from the NRA, etc: > >>>> / > >>>> /I don't know if you are aware of this but Obama signed the treaty on > >>>> guncontrol with the UN...everyone must start now contacting their > >>>> Senators to tell them not to ratify this treaty./ > > >>>>http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin507.htmhttp://gunowners.o... > > >>>> Please pass this on to everyone you know so that they may start > >>>> contactingtheir Senators > > >>>> Obama Pushing Treaty To Ban Reloading > > >>>> -- Even BB guns could be on the chopping block > > >>>> Tuesday, April 21, 2009 > > >>>> Remember CANDIDATE Barack Obama? The guy who "wasn't going to take away > >>>> our guns"? Well, guess what? > > >>>> Less than 100 days into his administration, he's never met a gun he > >>>> didn't hate. > > >>>> A week ago, Obama went to Mexico, whined about the United States, and > >>>> bemoaned (before the whole world) the fact that he didn't have the > >>>> political power to take away our semi-automatics. Nevertheless, that > >>>> didn't keep him from pushing /_additional restrictions_/ on American gun > >>>> owners. > > >>>> It's called the Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing > >>>> of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other > >>>> Related Materials. > > >>>> To be sure, this imponderable title masks a really nasty piece of work. > > >>>> First of all, when the treaty purports to ban the "illicit" manufacture > >>>> of firearms, what does that mean? > > >>>> 1. "Illicit manufacturing" of firearms is defined as "assembly of > >>>> firearms [or] ammunition ... without a license...." Hence, reloading > >>>> ammunition -- or putting together a lawful firearm from a kit -- is > >>>> clearly "illicit manufacturing." > > >>>> Modifying a firearm in any way would surely be "illicit manufacturing." > >>>> And, _while it would be a_ _stretch_, _/assembling a firearm after > >>>> cleaning it could, in any plain reading of the words, come within the > >>>> screwy definition of "illicit manufacturing." /_ > > >>>> 2. "Firearm" has a similarly questionable definition. "[A]ny other > >>>> weapon" is a "firearm," according to the treaty -- and the term "weapon" > >>>> is nowhere defined. > > >>>> So, is a BB gun a "firearm"? Probably. A toy gun? Possibly. A pistol > >>>> grip or firing pin? Probably. And who knows what else. > > >>>> If these provisions (and others) become the law of the land, the Obama > >>>> administration could have a heyday in enforcing them. Consider some of > >>>> the other provisions in the treaty: > > >>>> * Banning reloading. > > >>>> /BANNING SALE OF BRASS, ALREADY FIRED, CARTRIDGES BY THE MILITARY TO THE > >>>> PRIVATE SECTOR IS IN PROCESS AND HAS BEEN LURCHED BACK AND FORTH AND WAS > >>>> PREVENTED FROM TAKING EFFECT BUT NOW SEEMS TO HAVE COME BACK TO LIFE./ > > >>>> In Article IV of the treaty, countries commit to adopting "necessary > >>>> legislative or other measures" to criminalize illicit manufacturing and > >>>> trafficking in firearms. Remember that "illicit manufacturing" includes > >>>> reloading and modifying or assembling a firearm in any way. > > >>>> This would mean that the Obama administration could promulgate > >>>> regulations banning reloading on the basis of this treaty -- just as it > >>>> is currently circumventing Congress to write legislation taxing > >>>> greenhouse gases. > > >>>> * Banning gun clubs. Article IV goes on to state that the criminalized > >>>> acts should include "association or conspiracy" in connection with said > >>>> offenses -- which is arguably a term broad enough to allow, by > >>>> regulation, the criminalization of entire pro-gun organizations or gun > >>>> clubs, based on the facilities which they provide their membership. > > >>>> * /_Extraditing US gun dealers_/. Article V requires each party to > >>>> "adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction > >>>> over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention" > >>>> under a variety of circumstances. > > >>>> We know that Mexico is blaming U.S. gun dealers for the fact that its > >>>> streets are flowing with blood. And we know it is possible for Mexico to > >>>> define offenses "committed in its territory" in a very broad way. And we > >>>> know that we have an _extradition obligation under Article XIX of the > >>>> proposed treaty. _ > > >>>> So we know that Mexico could try to use the treaty to demand to > >>>> extradition of American gun dealers. Under Article XXIX, if Mexico > >>>> demands the extradition of a lawful American gun dealer, the U.S. would > >>>> be required to resolve the dispute through "other means of peaceful > >>>> settlement." > > >>>> Does anyone want to risk twenty years in a sweltering Mexican jail on > >>>> the > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
