So what? On May 11, 7:53�pm, Hollywood <jimmyrocket1...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Cold, > > You must be getting senile dear lady. :-) > My birth date is July 2, 1949. > > On May 11, 11:59�am, Cold Water <coldwater...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > It seems to me that Woody has been 59 for three years now. :-) > > > CW > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Keith In Tampa > > To: PoliticalForum@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 12:56 > > Subject: Re: The Party of Rush > > > Holly, > > > Holly, > > > In the New Millennium, I believe that "Socialist" and "Democrat" are > > interchangeable monikers..... > > When you have a moment, please point out, "Some [of the] good ideas" that > > you believe can be attributed from Socialsim. � > > > (P.S.: �At 52, my ass is just right behind ya, and I refuse to get any > > older....You ain't draggin' my ass with ya!!! �LOL!!) > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Hollywood <jimmyrocket1...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > � KIT, > > > � Thank you, I AM a rather young 59. > > > � Socialism does have SOME good ideas,as does almost ALL political > > � ideaologies. I repeat, in what precincts in Minnesota does the > > � Socialist Party have a majority over the Democratic and Republican > > � Party. Not interested in your partisan labels. > > > � On May 11, 11:04 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > � > Young Holly, > > > � > �The truth is, that most Democrats in the New Millennium, are > > Socialists. > > � > The Democrat Party has literally been infiltrated by socialists. �Many > > act > > � > as if it is some kind of an insult to call a Socialist, a "Socialist", > > and > > � > this train of thought is beyond me. �Although the Democrats used to try > > and > > � > evade the moniker, and distance themselves from being classified as > > � > socialists, they do so no more. > > > � > �During the presidential campaign, President Obama, in his �own words, > > � > openly advocates a redistribution of wealth: > > > � >http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html > > > � > Of course, Vice President Biden believes that a socialist, > > "redistribution > > � > of wealth" plan, is the "patriotic thing to do": > > > � >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCqgNWRjmAc > > > � > Congresswoman Maxine Waters (Socialist, Cal.) �just this past summer, > > � > parroted the Venezuelan socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez, calling for the > > � > nationalization of the oil companies: > > > � >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ > > > � > ===================== > > � > Former House Democratic Caucus Chairman and current Chief of Staff �Rahm > > � > Emanuel, (D. Il.) �and Congressman. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) this past > > summer > > � > called for nationalizing our oill companies and our oil refineries: > > > � > "So if there's any seriousness about what some of our Republican > > colleagues > > � > are saying here in the House and elsewhere about improving the number of > > � > refineries, then maybe they'd be willing to have these refineries owned > > � > publicly, owned by the people of the United States, so that the people > > of > > � > the United States can determine how much of the product is refined and > > put > > � > out on the market. To me, that sounds like a very good idea." House > > � > Democratic Caucus > > � > *Former Chairman, & Current Obama Administration Chief of Staff �Rahm > > � > Emanuel (D-IL) June 19, 2008 * > > > � >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.... > > > � > "We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control how > > much > > � > gets out into the market. �Should the people of the United States own > > � > refineries? Maybe so. Frankly, I think that's a good idea. Then we could > > � > control the amount of refined product much more capably that gets out > > on the > > � > market..." > > > � > *Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) 18 June Press Conference with Democratic > > � > leadership. * > > > � > > > �http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.... > > > � > ========================== > > > � > Former Senator �and current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, during > > her > > � > presidential campaign, openly advocated a socialist platform: > > > � > "Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. > > � > We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably > > going to > > � > cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away > > from > > � > you on behalf of the common good." - Senator Hillary Clinton, April 27, > > 2008 > > > � > "Fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government > > policies."� > > � > - Senator Hillary Clinton, 2008 presidential candidate, May 29, 2007 > > > � > "...because an uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely > > to > > � > die than an insured person. I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We > > � > have to build a political consensus and that requires people giving up a > > � > little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground. The > > same > > � > with energy. You know, we can't keep talking about our dependence on > > foreign > > � > oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it > > poses > > � > to our climate and to God's creation and just let business as usual go > > on, > > � > and that means something has to be taken away from some people." - > > > � > *Former Senator & Current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 2008 > > � > presidential candidate, June 3, 2007* > > � > * * > > � > ===================== > > > � > Democrats openly call for redistribution of wealth in our Nation, they > > call > > � > for socialized medicine, socialized energy, and in general, the Democrat > > � > Party openly advocates the federal government's �involvement in each and > > � > every facet of our lives. � Period. �What part of this can anyone, with > > a > > � > straight face, argue is NOT socialism? �The basic premise of all > > Democrats, > > � > is: �"Socialism, Communism, Marxism, Lenninism, etc. were not all that > > bad, > > � > we just haven't had the right people try to implement these economic and > > � > political policies yet". > > > � > Holly, just to refresh your memory, here is �the definition of > > socialism: > > > � > �"Date: 1837. From Latin socialis for "friend" or "companion" or > > � > "associate". Any of various economic and political theories advocating > > � > collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of > > � > production and distribution of goods; usually there is no private > > property; > > � > in Marxist theory this is also considered just a transitional stage > > between > > � > capitalism and communism and it is distinguished by unequal > > distribution of > > � > goods and pay according to work done." > > > � > The above definition is by Mr. John Spargo, from his work titled: > > � > "Socialism, A Summary And Interpretation Of Socialist Principles" > > (McMillan > > � > & Co. 1913). �Below is the Wiki definition, which is quite similar. > > > � > "Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or > > � > governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and > > � > distribution of goods. �A stage of society in Marxist theory > > transitional > > � > between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal > > distribution > > � > of goods and pay according to work done" > > > � > �==================== > > > � > There is no question that President Obama calledfor the very tenets of > > � > socialism, which is the forerunner of communism, and a economic and > > � > political system that has failed miserably throughout recorded history. > > � > President �Obama's, �and many Democrats' belief, is that "Socialism, > > � > Communism, Marxism, Trotskyism, and Stalinism were all wonderful > > political, > > � > social and economic systems, we just haven't had the right folks try and > > � > implement them yet!" > > > � > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Hollywood > > <jimmyrocket1...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > � > > KIT, > > > � > > Don't we normally have an investigation and then a trial before > > � > > declaring someone guilty? THAT was my point. > > � > > By all means, let the proper authority properly investigate ANY valid > > � > > accusation of fraud. > > > � > > What the fuck is a "socialist majority precint"? In what Minnesota > > � > > precincts is the Socialist Party in the majority and NOT either the > > � > > Democratic or republican Party? I say you are either lying or badly > > � > > mistaken. > > � > > Yeah, if a recount is ordered by the election board and/or a court > > � > > with jurisdiction sometimes ballots ARE counted twice. So? > > > � > > On May 10, 10:18 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > � > > > Uhm.....Holly??? > > > � > > > Isn't that the point of the current litigation? > > > � > > > I'll be happy to point you to a number of factual sites, with > > empirical > > � > > data > > � > > > that pretty much establishes the dishonesty of ACORN, the Minnesota > > State > > � > > > Attorney's Office, and a number of County Supervisors of Elections, > > that > > � > > > utilized different standards in some socialist majority precincts, > > and > > � > > other > > � > > > standards for conservative majority precincts. � Just as important, > > there > > � > > > were a number of precincts that had their votes counted twice, and I > > � > > think > > � > > > is as Rigs is alluding too, there are still a number of absentee > > ballots > > � > > > that to this day, have not been counted. > > > � > > > Sounds a lot like the typical far left extremist tactics used by the > > � > > > socialists around the Nation! > > > � > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Hollywood > > <jimmyrocket1...@hotmail.com > > � > > >wrote: > > > � > > > > KIT, > > > � > > > > Prove it, legally. > > > � > > > > On May 10, 6:38 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > � > > > > > I'll give you one word for what has caused the problem Studio: > > > � > > > > > Soros. > > > � > > > > > Your premise is > > ... > > read more �- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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