rigs, Didn't say otherwise. Just enjoying at laugh at Gov. Palin. :-)
No desire to refute anything I said? You just wanted to point out something we all already knew? That it was private capital that started the oil industry in this country a bit over 100 years ago? On May 11, 8:11 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote: > You wouldn't have an oil industry in America without royalty owners > and the oil industry. Go peddle your bike. > > On May 11, 8:01 pm, Hollywood <jimmyrocket1...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > KIT, > > > You can "believe" in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus for all I care. > > Dosen't mean your belief should be accepted as if it were a matter of > > fact by sane and sober adults. > > > I think I'll believe that George bush is REALLY the illegitimate som > > of Adolph Hitle and Eva Braun. > > > Well for one thing if the oil industry was nationalized that dumbass > > Gov. Palin wouldn't have sounded so stupid chanting "drill here", > > drill now" as if somehow oil found and brought up by multi-national > > oil companies actually belonged to the United Staes and was not the > > private property of the oil companies for them to do with what they > > wish. > > Maybe anything vital to national security cannot be trusted to > > corporations any longer. > > > On May 11, 11:56 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Holly, > > > > Holly, > > > > In the New Millennium, I believe that "Socialist" and "Democrat" are > > > interchangeable monikers..... > > > When you have a moment, please point out, "Some [of the] good ideas" that > > > you believe can be attributed from Socialsim. > > > > (P.S.: At 52, my ass is just right behind ya, and I refuse to get any > > > older....You ain't draggin' my ass with ya!!! LOL!!) > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Hollywood > > > <jimmyrocket1...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > > > KIT, > > > > > Thank you, I AM a rather young 59. > > > > > Socialism does have SOME good ideas,as does almost ALL political > > > > ideaologies. I repeat, in what precincts in Minnesota does the > > > > Socialist Party have a majority over the Democratic and Republican > > > > Party. Not interested in your partisan labels. > > > > > On May 11, 11:04 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Young Holly, > > > > > > The truth is, that most Democrats in the New Millennium, are > > > > > Socialists. > > > > > The Democrat Party has literally been infiltrated by socialists. Many > > > > act > > > > > as if it is some kind of an insult to call a Socialist, a "Socialist", > > > > and > > > > > this train of thought is beyond me. Although the Democrats used to try > > > > and > > > > > evade the moniker, and distance themselves from being classified as > > > > > socialists, they do so no more. > > > > > > During the presidential campaign, President Obama, in his own words, > > > > > openly advocates a redistribution of wealth: > > > > > >http://www.breitbart.tv/html/195153.html > > > > > > Of course, Vice President Biden believes that a socialist, > > > > "redistribution > > > > > of wealth" plan, is the "patriotic thing to do": > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCqgNWRjmAc > > > > > > Congresswoman Maxine Waters (Socialist, Cal.) just this past summer, > > > > > parroted the Venezuelan socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez, calling for > > > > > the > > > > > nationalization of the oil companies: > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ > > > > > > ===================== > > > > > Former House Democratic Caucus Chairman and current Chief of Staff > > > > > Rahm > > > > > Emanuel, (D. Il.) and Congressman. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) this past > > > > summer > > > > > called for nationalizing our oill companies and our oil refineries: > > > > > > "So if there's any seriousness about what some of our Republican > > > > colleagues > > > > > are saying here in the House and elsewhere about improving the number > > > > > of > > > > > refineries, then maybe they'd be willing to have these refineries > > > > > owned > > > > > publicly, owned by the people of the United States, so that the > > > > > people of > > > > > the United States can determine how much of the product is refined and > > > > put > > > > > out on the market. To me, that sounds like a very good idea." House > > > > > Democratic Caucus > > > > > *Former Chairman, & Current Obama Administration Chief of Staff Rahm > > > > > Emanuel (D-IL) June 19, 2008 * > > > > > >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.... > > > > > > "We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control > > > > > how > > > > much > > > > > gets out into the market. Should the people of the United States own > > > > > refineries? Maybe so. Frankly, I think that's a good idea. Then we > > > > > could > > > > > control the amount of refined product much more capably that gets out > > > > > on > > > > the > > > > > market..." > > > > > > *Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) 18 June Press Conference with Democratic > > > > > leadership. * > > > > > >http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/why_do_we_call_them_democrats.. > > > > .. > > > > > > ========================== > > > > > > Former Senator and current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, during > > > > her > > > > > presidential campaign, openly advocated a socialist platform: > > > > > > "Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped > > > > > you. > > > > > We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably > > > > > going > > > > to > > > > > cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away > > > > from > > > > > you on behalf of the common good." - Senator Hillary Clinton, April > > > > > 27, > > > > 2008 > > > > > > "Fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government > > > > policies." > > > > > - Senator Hillary Clinton, 2008 presidential candidate, May 29, 2007 > > > > > > "...because an uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more > > > > > likely > > > > to > > > > > die than an insured person. I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? > > > > > We > > > > > have to build a political consensus and that requires people giving > > > > > up a > > > > > little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground. > > > > > The > > > > same > > > > > with energy. You know, we can't keep talking about our dependence on > > > > foreign > > > > > oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it > > > > poses > > > > > to our climate and to God's creation and just let business as usual go > > > > on, > > > > > and that means something has to be taken away from some people." - > > > > > > *Former Senator & Current Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 2008 > > > > > presidential candidate, June 3, 2007* > > > > > * * > > > > > ===================== > > > > > > Democrats openly call for redistribution of wealth in our Nation, they > > > > call > > > > > for socialized medicine, socialized energy, and in general, the > > > > > Democrat > > > > > Party openly advocates the federal government's involvement in each > > > > > and > > > > > every facet of our lives. Period. What part of this can anyone, with a > > > > > straight face, argue is NOT socialism? The basic premise of all > > > > Democrats, > > > > > is: "Socialism, Communism, Marxism, Lenninism, etc. were not all that > > > > bad, > > > > > we just haven't had the right people try to implement these economic > > > > > and > > > > > political policies yet". > > > > > > Holly, just to refresh your memory, here is the definition of > > > > > socialism: > > > > > > "Date: 1837. From Latin socialis for "friend" or "companion" or > > > > > "associate". Any of various economic and political theories advocating > > > > > collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means > > > > > of > > > > > production and distribution of goods; usually there is no private > > > > property; > > > > > in Marxist theory this is also considered just a transitional stage > > > > between > > > > > capitalism and communism and it is distinguished by unequal > > > > > distribution > > > > of > > > > > goods and pay according to work done." > > > > > > The above definition is by Mr. John Spargo, from his work titled: > > > > > "Socialism, A Summary And Interpretation Of Socialist Principles" > > > > (McMillan > > > > > & Co. 1913). Below is the Wiki definition, which is quite similar. > > > > > > "Any of various economic and political theories advocating collective > > > > > or > > > > > governmental ownership and administration of the means of production > > > > > and > > > > > distribution of goods. A stage of society in Marxist theory > > > > > transitional > > > > > between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal > > > > distribution > > > > > of goods and pay according to work done" > > > > > > ==================== > > > > > > There is no question that President Obama calledfor the very tenets of > > > > > socialism, which is the forerunner of communism, and a economic and > > > > > political system that has failed miserably throughout recorded > > > > > history. > > > > > President Obama's, and many Democrats' belief, is that "Socialism, > > > > > Communism, Marxism, Trotskyism, and Stalinism were all wonderful > > > > political, > > > > > social and economic systems, we just haven't had the right folks try > > > > > and > > > > > implement them yet!" > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Hollywood > > > > > <jimmyrocket1...@hotmail.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > > Don't we normally have an investigation and then a trial before > > > > > > declaring someone guilty? THAT was my point. > > > > > > By all means, let the proper authority properly investigate ANY > > > > > > valid > > > > > > accusation of fraud. > > > > > > > What the fuck is a "socialist majority precint"? In what Minnesota > > > > > > precincts is the Socialist Party in the majority and NOT either the > > > > > > Democratic or republican Party? I say you are either lying or badly > > > > > > mistaken. > > > > > > Yeah, if a recount is ordered by the election board and/or a court > > > > > > with jurisdiction sometimes ballots ARE counted twice. So? > > > > > > > On May 10, 10:18 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Uhm.....Holly??? > > > > > > > > Isn't that the point of the current litigation? > > > > > > > > I'll be happy to point you to a number of factual sites, with > > > > empirical > > > > > > data > > > > > > > that pretty much establishes the dishonesty of ACORN, the > > > > > > > Minnesota > > > > State > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
