What about the grey areas as "Obama is a Nigger"???  which contain NO
bodily threats and cause merely hurt feelings???  Many want to make
these "hate speech"...  Yet your 1st example did just that FOR SOME
FOLKS...  If one argues "Rule of Law" the ANY speech that hurts anyone
should be treated as equal (i.e. no special protected classes or
minorities)...   One problem with the proposed hate laws to date is
that "hurt feelings" of only some groups is considered as justifying a
specific speech as "hate speech"...

Second under current law speech without action is not a crime (with
limited exceptions - yelling Fire in a crowded theater (as many
politicians do) or slander damaging reputation)...   Are we to
overthrow that standard to shield bigots who shout "all whites are
racist bigots"" who happen to be AA???  But to imprison a white bigot
for the same???

Was not the actions of the Duke professors organized "hate speech"
deliberately aimed to defame innocent Duke Lacrosse players???
Should not they be inprisioned for their KKK like actions???

But to include all offender would make a hate speech law
impassable...  Why???  The purpose of laws in fundamentally impose a
speech code on only selected portions of citizens in the end...  If
Liberal bigotry and hate speech fell under the same law Liberals would
vigorously oppose it...   Just think of how many Liberals would be
charged with hate crimes today for their remarks about Miss
California...   Or the comic at the WH who told a joke(non joke?)
about wishing Rush dead)....


On May 15, 6:55 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> jjg,
>
> Please explain to me the positives of hate speech, how the world might
> be worse if it were to be banned.
>
> Please do not confuse hate speech with exercising the Constituion
> right of freedom of speech.
>
> Not a damn thing wrong to say "I despise George Bush/Barrack Obama
> (whoeverthefuck)i urge all my fellow citizens to votes against him and
> oppose his policies at every opportunity." Freedom of speech.
>
> "I despise George Bush/Barrack Obama (whoeverthefuck) and urge you to
> KILL the S.O.B. and the traitors that voted for him". Hate speech.
>
> On May 15, 3:12 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I can say the same about hateful speech...  Yet many Liberal demand an
> > absolute ban...
>
> > On May 15, 12:50 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > jgg,
>
> > > Look at it this way. There can be absilutely no question that firearms
> > > are frequently used in immoral ways.
> > > Shall we remove the right to own and carry firearms in an attempt to
> > > stop this immoral behaviour?
>
> > > On May 15, 11:17 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > This is a question that folks favoring abortion must face...  What
> > > > reason are "moral" for deciding to have an abortion???   If any reason
> > > > will do, then clearly one sees a fetus as a life "without
> > > > rights"....   When do human right start and/or stop???  But morality
> > > > is a tangled web of contrary rhymes and reasoning...
>
> > > > In Sweden, it is state approval was given to abort a female fetus...
> > > > Should or Could the State make such decisions???   Is this what is
> > > > meant by "State Religion"???
>
> > > >http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/sweden-approves-gender-based-ab...
>
> > > > >> Swedish women will be permitted to abort their children based on the 
> > > > >> sex of the fetus, according to a ruling by Sweden’s National Board 
> > > > >> of Health and Welfare.
>
> > > > The ruling was spurred by a request from Kai Wedenberg, head of the
> > > > clinic where a woman twice requested, and received, an abortion based
> > > > on sex.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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