again it was an obvious typo, the very next paragraph I corrected the statement by saying he FACED impeachment...
I believe Nixon was also Impeached for his crimes during the Vietnam war. Nixon resigned rather than face impeachment for his crimes while in office, and Republicans pushed all out to impeach Clinton while in office about a lie over a BJ. On May 18, 9:33 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > Lets see......VT makes a completely erroneous statement regarding > something obvious, even to an eight year old.......I call him on it > and you say its "whining?" Why don't you just call me a Nazi, Holly? > It would be just as goofy as saying I'm "whining" and you'd get a > bigger kick out of it. > > On May 18, 9:22 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Zeb, > > > Naaaah, that was definately whining. > > > On May 18, 7:17 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Merely pointing out the ignorance of libs. VT actually believes Nixon > > > was impeached. Amazing! > > > > On May 18, 1:27 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Zeb, > > > > > Yeah, and I agreed that Nixon was never impeached. So what are you > > > > whining about now? > > > > > On May 18, 11:08 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Like I said and VT was deluded about, Nixon was never impeached. > > > > > Unlike another President who perjured himself to a federal judge and > > > > > encouraged perjury in others, thereby disgracing himself and his > > > > > office, not to mention breaking federal law, Nixon resigned rather > > > > > than torture the country. > > > > > > On May 18, 11:15 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Zeb, > > > > > > > Nope, he resigned in disgrace before he could be impeached. > > > > > > > On May 18, 10:08 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What school did you go to? Nixon was never impeached. Delusions > > > > > > > become > > > > > > > reality for libs. > > > > > > > > On May 17, 3:26 am, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > If we tried the little guys for what happened at Abu Gharib > > > > > > > > then the precedent has already been set for the ENTIRE > > > > > > > > Bush Administration. > > > > > > > > > I believe Nixon was also Impeached for his crimes > > > > > > > > during the Vietnam war. > > > > > > > > > Nixon resigned rather than face impeachment for his crimes > > > > > > > > while in office, and Republicans pushed all out to impeach > > > > > > > > Clinton while in office about a lie over a BJ. > > > > > > > > > So both your reasons for calling me a traitor have both been > > > > > > > > proven false based on previous precedent. > > > > > > > > > You have nothing left to say, because you have run > > > > > > > > out of realistic arguments. > > > > > > > > > On May 16, 4:47 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey Sean!! > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I thought my post was rather witty!! > > > > > > > > > > In all honesty, you seem like a bright, intelligent, (I am > > > > > > > > > assuming younger > > > > > > > > > than me) man. It is one thing to question our governments' > > > > > > > > > policies, and > > > > > > > > > quite another to jump on a traitorous bandwagon, accusing our > > > > > > > > > President, > > > > > > > > > (any President!) during a time of war, of war crimes. > > > > > > > > > > I have nothing else to say on the subject. Based on all of > > > > > > > > > the information > > > > > > > > > that has been released to date, I don't believe that we ever > > > > > > > > > "tortured" > > > > > > > > > anyone. That this is just a hyped up term used by far left > > > > > > > > > extremists who > > > > > > > > > are either uninformed, and/or have an Anti-American agenda. > > > > > > > > > One or the > > > > > > > > > other.... > > > > > > > > > > Until such time as more information has been released, (which > > > > > > > > > initially I > > > > > > > > > was opposed to, but now, because the Obama Administration > > > > > > > > > chose to release > > > > > > > > > the several Memoranda by Bybee and Bradbury) I want to see > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > released, including the documents from July 2004 that former > > > > > > > > > Vice President > > > > > > > > > Cheney has requested be released. > > > > > > > > > > Until such time, I can add nothing to the > > > > > > > > > conversation.....I've said my > > > > > > > > > piece, both here in PF, as well as that Den of Moonbats, > > > > > > > > > Euwetopia. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 3:43 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That was the best you could do? > > > > > > > > > > > Keith you want to try again? > > > > > > > > > > > On May 16, 1:38 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM, VT Sean Lewis > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The shifting denial about torture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 16, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Sean Lewis > > > > > > > > > > > > > Torture is just one more nail into the coffin > > > > > > > > > > > > for the Republican Party. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheney is just trying to protect himself and > > > > > > > > > > > > doing preemptive damage control. It is clear > > > > > > > > > > > > the torture policy was his decision. Cheney > > > > > > > > > > > > is hoping for another terror attack so he can > > > > > > > > > > > > be vindicated the same way the entire GOP > > > > > > > > > > > > party wants President Obama to fail so the > > > > > > > > > > > > GOP policies can be vindicated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The water down spin on torture is that water > > > > > > > > > > > > boarding is not torture. Dunking someones > > > > > > > > > > > > head is hardly torture, it is like getting baptised! > > > > > > > > > > > > The rough questioning was needed to get results! > > > > > > > > > > > > > However a few things are being left out, 98 > > > > > > > > > > > > dead prisoners, the torture did not work, and > > > > > > > > > > > > torture is against the both US and International > > > > > > > > > > > > law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If all the CIA was doing was 'questioning' prisoners > > > > > > > > > > > > why was a doctor needed to be present? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been questioned by the police, no doctor was > > > > > > > > > > > > present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In previous questioning by the FBI, no doctor was > > > > > > > > > > > > present, > > > > > > > > > > > > so what changed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > What changed was there was now a chance that the > > > > > > > > > > > > prisoner > > > > > > > > > > > > might die from the harsh interrogation. In fact 98 > > > > > > > > > > > > prisoners > > > > > > > > > > > > who were being held for 'questioning died. > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://opendebateforum2.blogspot.com/2009/04/98-prisoners-died-in-us-. > > > > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This article had 623 footnotes verifying the deaths. > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.humanrightsfirst.info/pdf/06221-etn-hrf-dic-rep-web.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted one of those footnotes at the end of this > > > > > > > > > > > > article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Torture Apologists want you to believe that water > > > > > > > > > > > > boarding > > > > > > > > > > > > is not dangerous, problem is water boarding wasn't the > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > harsh treatment the prisoners received. A point the > > > > > > > > > > > > Torture Apologist > > > > > > > > > > > > conveniently do not bring up. Also if it wasn't torture > > > > > > > > > > > > explain the 98 dead prisoners? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next comes the issue of why the prisoners were being > > > > > > > > > > > > tortured > > > > > > > > > > > > and what were the results of the torture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We were told that the torture was to protect Americans > > > > > > > > > > > > from future > > > > > > > > > > > > attack, and that valuable information came as a result > > > > > > > > > > > > of the torture. > > > > > > > > > > > > This was after we were told that the US does not > > > > > > > > > > > > torture by the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The truth is that the CIA was torturing prisoners. not > > > > > > > > > > > > to protect > > > > > > > > > > > > America or Americans, but to find a connection between > > > > > > > > > > > > Iraq and > > > > > > > > > > > > 9/11 or a connection between Iraq and Al qaeda. This > > > > > > > > > > > > was to > > > > > > > > > > > > give cover to the Bush Administration after no WMD's > > > > > > > > > > > > were found > > > > > > > > > > > > in Iraq. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The torture how ever did not work, In fact it had the > > > > > > > > > > > > opposite effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > Prisoners who were cooperating and freely giving > > > > > > > > > > > > valuable Intel about > > > > > > > > > > > > Al qaeda without torture to the FBI, stopped > > > > > > > > > > > > cooperation when the > > > > > > > > > > > > CIA began torturing them about non existent connections > > > > > > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > > > > > Iraq and 9/11 or Iraq and Al Qaeda. > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://opendebateforum2.blogspot.com/2009/05/timeline-history-of-hars. > > > > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://opendebateforum2.blogspot.com/2009/05/report-links-cia-to-mili. > > > > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://opendebateforum2.blogspot.com/2009/05/harsh-interrogation-tech. > > > > > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The legality of torture is, there is none. The Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > Administration > > > > > > > > > > > > knew > > > > > > > > > > > > this so in an effort to do a work around, the Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > Administration > > > > > > > > > > > > redefined the status of the prisoners to a > > > > > > > > > > > > classification the Bush > > > > > > > > > > > > Administration > > > > > > > > > > > > deemed outside of the Geneva Convention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next came the justification of 'Harsh Interrogation' > > > > > > > > > > > > because of the > > > > > > > > > > > > 'ticking > > > > > > > > > > > > time bomb' scenario. The White House ordered White > > > > > > > > > > > > House attorneys to > > > > > > > > > > > > write briefs not only saying that harsh interrogation > > > > > > > > > > > > was not torture, > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > instances when harsh interrogation was prudent and > > > > > > > > > > > > advised. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two problems with this, the need for a doctor during > > > > > > > > > > > > 'questioning' and > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > 98 dead prisoners, also the questioning of the > > > > > > > > > > > > prisoners had nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > do with an imminent threat that was time sensitive. It > > > > > > > > > > > > was about > > > > > > > > > > > > getting > > > > > > > > > > > > back fill Intel to justify the Iraq invasion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently the Torture Apologists are trying to say that > > > > > > > > > > > > key democratic > > > > > > > > > > > > leaders > > > > > > > > > > > > were also culpable in the torture. The belief is, if > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
