jgg,

Did you somehow miss the part where I said BOTH parties partisan hacks
need to grow up?

On Jun 4, 11:44 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
> I write a post saying the party out of power using rumor-mongering to
> regain power, which is true...   I say they are both very silly
> silly...   I conclude by saying an independent saw and sees this
> tactic as partisan ans silly...   .How did you reply and what does
> your post tell me???
>
> >>> Here we go again, "but MAAAAAAAW, they did it FIRST!!!!" No body ever 
> >>> seems to grow up, not the fuckin' Democratic partisan hacks or the 
> >>> Republican partisan hacks.
>
> The issue here is not about
>
> 1) who did it first,
> 2) placing blame,
> 3) assuming such tactics is childish or grown-up
>
> What the issue here is
>
> 1) unbridled partisanship involves a lust for power and willingness to
> most anything for power
> 2) Independence requires a rejection of rumor-mongering
>
> What does your response say
>
> 1) Your initial "but MAAAAAW" assumes all mudsling 24/7, and all do
> not
> 2) It is not about growing up -- the partisans who do it already ARE
> grown-up with a developed lust for power for their group
> 3) unless one stops and considers issues from all sides, serious
> discuss can not be had
>
> Frankly I think Madison had it right, the best government requires you
> toss in all sides as all sides have human greed and have them contain
> the other's greed....   It will be fun to watch Obama's folk reveal
> their greed and see how long it takes true believers to condemn it....
>
> On Jun 4, 12:00 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > jgg,
>
> > Here we go again, "but MAAAAAAAW, they did it FIRST!!!!"
> > No body ever seems to grow up, not the fuckin' Democratic partisan
> > hacks or the Republican partisan hacks.
>
> > On Jun 4, 10:46 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > When Bush was President the Left was the source of much very silly
> > > rumor-mongering for the purposes of partisan gain...   Which Obama as
> > > President the Right takes up this tactic with the same very silly
> > > types of rumors....
>
> > > Perhaps a functional definition of an independent voter is a voter who
> > > sees both sides rumor-mongering as partisan and very silly, then and
> > > now...
>
> > > On Jun 4, 11:34 am, Diogenes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Aside from drumming up hysteria over a possible bombing plot, what is
> > > > it you are attempting to get to? As with too many on this site which I
> > > > came for discussion not radical agenda's there is a dearth of
> > > > discussion and way too much radical rhetoric which serves no useful
> > > > purpose. If you attempting to persuade thought I would suggest that
> > > > you and your ilk attempt to offer more reasoned approach and less
> > > > bumper sticker comments.
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> > > > On Jun 4, 10:52 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > >  *Did Bomb Bring Down French
> > > > > Airbus?*<http://www.prisonplanet.com/did-bomb-bring-down-french-airbus.html>
> > > > > *Infowars, *June 4, 2009
>
> > > > > The corporate media reports that the Air France airbus that went down 
> > > > > in the
> > > > > Atlantic was a victim of “updrafts and lightning” from tropical
> > > > > thunderstorms. “The Airbus A330-200 lost contact with controllers 
> > > > > after
> > > > > hitting turbulence as it flew to Paris from Rio de Janeiro. The plane
> > > > > reported an electrical breakdown, then sent 10 automated distress 
> > > > > signals
> > > > > and vanished,” reports
> > > > > Bloomberg<http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aKZFDUdHZoKk>
> > > > > .
>
> > > > > [image: Air France]
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> > > > > Airbus said “it would be inappropriate for Airbus to enter into any 
> > > > > form of
> > > > > speculation into the causes of the accident.”
>
> > > > > Speculation, of course, if rife. However, the media is not reporting 
> > > > > an
> > > > > incident that may have played into the airplane’s disappearance over 
> > > > > the
> > > > > Atlantic.
>
> > > > > On May 27, Memento
> > > > > 24<http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:rogFhX-NRfYJ:momento24.com/en/20...>reported
> > > > > that an Air France plane in Ezeiza, Argentina, received a bomb
> > > > > threat.
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> > > > > “The airport safety delayed an Air France flight this evening before
> > > > > departing for Paris immediately after the company received a bomb 
> > > > > threat
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> > > > > Federal
> > > > > Police, along the Firemen’s direction and the Airport’s Safety 
> > > > > proceeded to
> > > > > inspect the plane, that arrived this morning from the French city 
> > > > > and, after
> > > > > a brief stop, it was preparing to return.”
>
> > > > > “They were dancers and doctors, engineers and executives, and even 
> > > > > royalty.
> > > > > Many were parents, and eight were children,” on the flight that went 
> > > > > down in
> > > > > the Atlantic, reports The New York
> > > > > Times<http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/world/europe/03victims.html?em>.
> > > > > “Prince Pedro Luis de Orleans e Braganca, 26, a member of Brazil’s
> > > > > now-defunct royal family and a descendant of Dom Pedro II, the 
> > > > > nation’s last
> > > > > emperor, was on the plane, the royal family said in a statement to the
> > > > > press.”
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