Hell, I don't trust ANY schmuck who lives and works in Washington,Deceit!!!
On Jun 6, 7:20 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > KIT, > > Lad, you are simply too caught up and enamored by tha far-right's > rhetoric. "cow-towing", "ass-kissing", "cult of Islam", blah-blah- > blah. Yout post is simply one long list of inflammatroy bumper-sticker > rhetoric. > Wasn't that long ago the far right was dismissive of most of Europe > and called them Euro-Trash. This was done when much of Europe opposed > much of Geroge Bush's policies in the M.E. Also pretty much anytime > anyone mentions the advantagesof nationalized health care. > NOW you want to pretend you're all outraged that, in your opinion, > these same Europeans have somehow been insulted by President Obama. > What were the specific insults to each of these countries mentioned > antway? Tell me what they are sp "pissed off" about and why you > suddenly give a shit. > Sure it has something to do with it. or else why would you have > mentioned it? It was a lame effort on your part to try to make > President Obama "pissing off" Gemany sound grave and important. > > On Jun 6, 3:34 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Holly, > > > My original point, in my original message in this thread, was that President > > Obama was cow-towing to the individuals who belong to the dangerous cult of > > Islam. That President Obama, during his "Kiss Islam's Ass" tour, managed > > to piss off one of our allies, a very important ally, that being Germany. > > In my initial message, I did say that Germany was one of our "oldest and > > staunchest" allies, but later came back and admitted that to coin Germany > > as one of our "oldest" allies was somewhat misplaced on my part. > > > The length of time that Germany has been an ally to the United States had > > relatively little, or really nothing to do with the point of what I was > > attempting to convey! > > > Then, you chose to get off on making prevaricate, inaccurate statements > > regarding Germany's health care system, and framed the German Nation-State > > as "socialist", which, as compared to most of Europe, Germany is far less > > socialist as its European compatriots. Again, I took the time to correct > > your misprisons of the truth, which.....Again, has nothing to do with our > > President making demoralizing, debilitating statements about our Nation, as > > the leader of the Free World. > > > So, in sum, as of 16:30 ET., you have not at all addressed what the issues > > were that were initially being discussed, but instead have nic-picked > > trivial insignificant verbiage that has absolutely nothing to do with the > > context of what this discussion was revoling around, and you have failed to > > even address nor have you attempted to disprove what it was that I initially > > said. > > > You then have the audacity to claim that I am "endlessly changing points"? > > > LOL!!! > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Hollywood > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > KIT, > > > > Lad, I did not claim that Germany's health system was the same as the > > > Netherlands or the Brits. Didn't say people here were refused health > > > care if they were poor. > > > > My but you are chatty today. Now you want to talk about Germant's tax > > > codes and insist THE POINT really is President Obama insulting some > > > European leaders (in your opinion). > > > > All this endlessly changing points and talk stemming from my comment > > > that Germany is hardly our "oldest and staunchest" ally? > > > > On Jun 6, 2:41 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Holly, > > > > > You Sir, are the master of attempting to stray off course, and focus > > > among > > > > the most trivial of comments, while avoiding the issues!! > > > > > But, in order to address your mis-statements, no, Germany does not have > > > > a > > > > "Nationalized Health Care" system such as can be found in the > > > > Netherlands > > > or > > > > in Great Britain per se. Germany does have a varied form of universal > > > > health care, which is similar to the system that is currently in place > > > here > > > > in the United States. There is no one in the United States who can be > > > > refused health care treatment if they are hurt, or sick, and most > > > especially > > > > if they are poor or indigent!! > > > > > More importantly, Germany has a federal and state income tax rate, which > > > is > > > > about similar to our own, and the German peoples receive far more > > > benefits > > > > from their government than the average American does. > > > > > The point, which you obviously don't want to address, is that President > > > > Obama went over to Germany last week, and insulted Chancellor Merckle, > > > > as > > > he > > > > has now done with the Prime Minister of Great Britain, the President of > > > > France, the Prime Minister of Australia, and most all of America's > > > > allies. Again, your partisanship is blinding your logical, rational, > > > > critical thinking abilities Holly!! > > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > "Somewhat misplaced"? LOL! > > > > > Lad, you did not tell me you wanted to discuss the economy of Germany. > > > > > Why do you always want to discuss theings I didn't comment on and did > > > > > not even know where on the table for discussion? Doesn't Germany have > > > > > nationalized health care, doesn't that make them socialists? :-) > > > > > > Keep trying Keith. > > > > > > On Jun 6, 10:23 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Holly, > > > > > > > Germany is a Nation that is younger than the United States, so I > > > > > > will > > > > > > concede that to have said, "oldest" was somewhat misplaced. > > > > > > > Germany has the most dynamic economy of any European Nation-State. > > > > > Germany > > > > > > was rebuilt by the United States under the Marshall plan. It has > > > been > > > > > > Germany who has sided with the United States as much if not more so > > > than > > > > > > Great Britain, especially during the 1960s and early 1970s when > > > > > > Great > > > > > > Britain forced the United States off of the silver standard. > > > > > > > Once again, you have demonstrated that it is you who is ignorant of > > > > > > historical facts, and I surmise this is caused by your partisan > > > stance > > > > > and > > > > > > refusing to admit when your Party has been infiltrated by Socialists > > > > > intent > > > > > > on destroying the very fabric of our Nation. > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Hollywood < > > > [email protected] > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > rigs, > > > > > > > > Only historical point I made was that to call Germany "our oldest > > > and > > > > > > > closest ally" was in error considering the fact of WWI and WWII. > > > > > > > What is your view on the statement that "Germany is our OLDEST > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > staunchest ally"? > > > > > > > > Made no mention of Isreal whatsoever. > > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 8:59 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It made your post understandable to me in the context of my view > > > of > > > > > > > > history as opposed to your view. I think we should agree to > > > disagree > > > > > > > > as we never seem to see eye-to-eye. I consider Obama's Cairo > > > speech > > > > > an > > > > > > > > insult to Israel and his view of Islam's history was not > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > It's all about his image. Well, if we knife Israel in the back, > > > > > > > > perhaps Russia will have a greater influence with Israel rather > > > than > > > > > > > > the USA. At one time I think 1/5 of Israelis were descended from > > > > > > > > Russia. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 8:11 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > rigs, > > > > > > > > > > No doubt. But what does that have to do with my post? > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 3:56 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > There were a lot of German immigrants to America. It must > > > have > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > terrible to destroy their ancestral homeland. We fought to > > > save > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > British and French colonial empires- which we had thrown > > > > > > > > > > off- > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > they lost, anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 5, 9:11 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > > > > > > > Germany, "our oldest and staunchest ally"? What about > > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > > > spats commonly referred to as WWI and WWII. What does > > > > > tomorrow's > > > > > > > date > > > > > > > > > > > commerate? > > > > > > > > > > > Who's the dumbass? > > > > > > > > > > > General Motors put General Motors into bankruptacy. How > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > fuck > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > > > President Obama "destroy General Motors?" GM BEGGED for > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > fucking > > > > > > > > > > > money. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 5, 8:13 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can support that total asshole on his "America > > > > > Apologizes" > > > > > > > tour, > > > > > > > > > > > > while he has kissed the proverbial ass of Islam, and at > > > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > time pissed > > > > > > > > > > > > off our oldest and staunchest ally, Germany, then you > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > so > > > > > > > friggin' > > > > > > > > > > > > confused and blinded by the stupid rhetoric that you > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > been > > > > > > > posting. All > > > > > > > > > > > > Americans, from both sides of the aisle should be > > > outraged!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > This man who is parading as our President is supposedly > > > > > Harvard > > > > > > > educated? > > > > > > > > > > > > He is a dumbass, with no clue!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fritz, you, and all of you those who supported this > > > > > socialistic > > > > > > > horse hockey > > > > > > > > > > > > should be ashamed!! Our Nation is in literally in > > > > > > > > > > > > danger! > > > > > This > > > > > > > man has > > > > > > > > > > > > destroyed General Motors, while at the same time ruining > > > our > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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