Well, Fred, Holly only gave you a far left extremist point of view, which he is quite good at.
Many here in the group take issue with Islam not reforming, like the countless times that Christianity and Judaism have reformed. Many here in the group are concerned that to date, there has been no one individual from Islam, especially to include any Islamic clergy, Grand Mufti, Imam, or Islamic theocratic leader from any Islamic Nation-State, who has condemned the homicidal murdering of civilians by Islamic thugs, and that have taken place all over the world. There are many here in the group that are outraged at the way women are treated in Islamic culture, and how the Q'uoran condones such treatment, (again, Islam failing to reform and acknowledge equality of all individuals). There are many in the group who find it troublesome that those fundamentalist Muslims have no tolerance for Muslims who want to lead a peaceful, "Western style" kind of lifestyle, as has been witnessed in Kosovo, Republica Sprska, Croatia, Bosnia-Herznogovinia, and the territories that are formerly known as Yugoslavia. That those Muslims who hold "moderate" viewpoints are considered to be no better than us "infidels" who should be taxed first, and then if we refuse to convert to Islam, then we should all die horrible deaths. There are many here in the Group who resent that a large minority of Muslims, and those who seem to have control and are intent on the spread of the Islamic movement today, want to see yours and mine, and every Americans, Europeans, and all of Western Civilization as we know it, ended, and that we all perish. But then, there are folks like Holly in the Group, who thinks that "It's a Hoot"..... On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > Fred, > > Oh there's really no point. Travis and Bruce typically have no point > other than to demean and/or insult Muslims, apparantly just for being > Muslims, all 1.3 billion of them. He has no object other than to > dehumanize them and stir up as much hate as possible towards all > Muslims. > Travis regularily claims that Islam is not a religion a all, but a > "blood-thirsty murder cult" that should be eliminated from the world > or a least from this country. Really, I'm serious. Certain people here > condemn ALL MUSLIMS for what Islamic terrorists have, and are of > course, doing. > > Hang around, it's a hoot. Oh, and welcome, enjoy yourself. > > On Jun 27, 10:59 am, Frederick The Moderate > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm new here. Are you commenting on the mistreatment of prisoners in > > Abu Graihb? > > I mean as a Christian, I would obviously be appalled if someone made a > > cartoon like that with the Bible as "two-ply" and would hope that no > > one of my faith would stoop so low. > > So what was the subject or point or the post? > > > > On Jun 27, 6:13 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have added artwork > > > > > > *Muslims Beat Christian to Death for Drinking Tea from a Muslim Cup > *<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/muslims-beat-.. > .> > > > > *Obama says, RESPECT MUSLIMS! Whether you agree with their lifestyle > > > > choices or not.* > > > > > > Christian Murdered for Drinking Tea from a Muslim Cup > > > > < > http://www.persecution.org/suffering/ICCnews/newsdetail.php?newscode=...> > > > > > > *WASHINGTON, DC (MetroCatholic) - International Christian Concern ( > > > >www.persecution.org) has learned that radical Muslims running a tea > stallbeat a Christian man to death for using a cup designated for Muslims on > May > > > > 9. The young man, Ishtiaq Masih, had ordered tea at a roadside stall > in > > > > Machharkay village, Punjab, Pakistan, after his bus made a rest stop. > * > > > > > > When Ishtiaq went to pay for his tea, the owner noticed that he was > wearing > > > > a necklace with a cross and grabbed him, calling for his employees to > bring > > > > anything available to beat him for violating a sign posted on the > stall > > > > warning non-Muslims to declare their religion before being served. > Ishtiaq > > > > had not noticed the warning sign before ordering his tea. *The owner > and > > > > 14 of his employees beat Ishtiaq with stones, iron rods and clubs, > and > > > > stabbed him multiple times with kitchen knives as Ishtiaq pleaded for > mercy. > > > > * > > > > > > The other bus passengers and other passers-by finally intervened and > took > > > > Ishtiaq to the Rural Health Center in the village. The doctor who > took > > > > Ishtiaq’s case told ICC that Ishtiaq had died due to excessive > internal and > > > > external bleeding, a fractured skull, and brain injuries. > > > > > > Makah Tea Stall is located on the Sukheki-Lahore highway and is owned > by Mubarak > > > > Ali, a 42-year-old radical Muslim. ICC’s correspondent visited the > tea > > > > stall and observed that a large red warning sign with a death’s head > symbol > > > > was posted which read, *“All non-Muslims should introduce their faith > > > > prior to ordering tea. This tea stall serves Muslims only.”* The > warning > > > > also threatened anyone who violated the rule with “dire > consequences.” > > > > > > A neighboring shopkeeper told ICC on condition of anonymity that all > Ali’s > > > > employees are former students of radical Muslim madrassas > (seminaries). > > > > Ishtiaq’s family said that they immediately reported the incident to > the > > > > police and filed a case against Ali. However, the murderers are still > freely > > > > operating the tea stall. When ICC asked the Pindi Bhatian Saddar > police > > > > station about the murder, the police chief said that investigations > were > > > > underway and they are treating it as a faith-based murder by biased > Muslims. > > > > When asked about Ali’s warning sign, police chief Muhammad Iftikhar > Bajwa > > > > claimed that he could not take it down. 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