KIT, Riiiiight, Travis's cartoon of a man useing the Q'uoran as TP is a subtle comment on the need for Islam to modernize. Suuuuuure....
How interesting that you make no attempt to refute that Travis often claims Islam is NOT a religion, but a murder cult", or ANYTHING else I stated Travis did. Fred appears quite intelligent, I'm sure he's quite capable of reading and will soon realize which are the "certain people" I refer to. I welcomed Fred to the Forum and said "it's a hoot". As you well know, don't be childish you're a grown man for God's sake. On Jun 27, 4:31 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, Fred, Holly only gave you a far left extremist point of view, which he > is quite good at. > > Many here in the group take issue with Islam not reforming, like the > countless times that Christianity and Judaism have reformed. > > Many here in the group are concerned that to date, there has been no one > individual from Islam, especially to include any Islamic clergy, Grand > Mufti, Imam, or Islamic theocratic leader from any Islamic Nation-State, who > has condemned the homicidal murdering of civilians by Islamic thugs, and > that have taken place all over the world. > > There are many here in the group that are outraged at the way women are > treated in Islamic culture, and how the Q'uoran condones such treatment, > (again, Islam failing to reform and acknowledge equality of all > individuals). > > There are many in the group who find it troublesome that those > fundamentalist Muslims have no tolerance for Muslims who want to lead a > peaceful, "Western style" kind of lifestyle, as has been witnessed in > Kosovo, Republica Sprska, Croatia, Bosnia-Herznogovinia, and the territories > that are formerly known as Yugoslavia. That those Muslims who hold > "moderate" viewpoints are considered to be no better than us "infidels" who > should be taxed first, and then if we refuse to convert to Islam, then we > should all die horrible deaths. > > There are many here in the Group who resent that a large minority of > Muslims, and those who seem to have control and are intent on the spread of > the Islamic movement today, want to see yours and mine, and every Americans, > Europeans, and all of Western Civilization as we know it, ended, and that we > all perish. > > But then, there are folks like Holly in the Group, who thinks that "It's a > Hoot"..... > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Fred, > > > Oh there's really no point. Travis and Bruce typically have no point > > other than to demean and/or insult Muslims, apparantly just for being > > Muslims, all 1.3 billion of them. He has no object other than to > > dehumanize them and stir up as much hate as possible towards all > > Muslims. > > Travis regularily claims that Islam is not a religion a all, but a > > "blood-thirsty murder cult" that should be eliminated from the world > > or a least from this country. Really, I'm serious. Certain people here > > condemn ALL MUSLIMS for what Islamic terrorists have, and are of > > course, doing. > > > Hang around, it's a hoot. Oh, and welcome, enjoy yourself. > > > On Jun 27, 10:59 am, Frederick The Moderate > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm new here. Are you commenting on the mistreatment of prisoners in > > > Abu Graihb? > > > I mean as a Christian, I would obviously be appalled if someone made a > > > cartoon like that with the Bible as "two-ply" and would hope that no > > > one of my faith would stoop so low. > > > So what was the subject or point or the post? > > > > On Jun 27, 6:13 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I have added artwork > > > > > > *Muslims Beat Christian to Death for Drinking Tea from a Muslim Cup > > *<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/muslims-beat-.. > > .> > > > > > *Obama says, RESPECT MUSLIMS! Whether you agree with their lifestyle > > > > > choices or not.* > > > > > > Christian Murdered for Drinking Tea from a Muslim Cup > > > > > < > >http://www.persecution.org/suffering/ICCnews/newsdetail.php?newscode=...> > > > > > > *WASHINGTON, DC (MetroCatholic) - International Christian Concern ( > > > > >www.persecution.org) has learned that radical Muslims running a tea > > stallbeat a Christian man to death for using a cup designated for Muslims on > > May > > > > > 9. The young man, Ishtiaq Masih, had ordered tea at a roadside stall > > in > > > > > Machharkay village, Punjab, Pakistan, after his bus made a rest stop. > > * > > > > > > When Ishtiaq went to pay for his tea, the owner noticed that he was > > wearing > > > > > a necklace with a cross and grabbed him, calling for his employees to > > bring > > > > > anything available to beat him for violating a sign posted on the > > stall > > > > > warning non-Muslims to declare their religion before being served. > > Ishtiaq > > > > > had not noticed the warning sign before ordering his tea. *The owner > > and > > > > > 14 of his employees beat Ishtiaq with stones, iron rods and clubs, > > and > > > > > stabbed him multiple times with kitchen knives as Ishtiaq pleaded for > > mercy. > > > > > * > > > > > > The other bus passengers and other passers-by finally intervened and > > took > > > > > Ishtiaq to the Rural Health Center in the village. The doctor who > > took > > > > > Ishtiaq’s case told ICC that Ishtiaq had died due to excessive > > internal and > > > > > external bleeding, a fractured skull, and brain injuries. > > > > > > Makah Tea Stall is located on the Sukheki-Lahore highway and is owned > > by Mubarak > > > > > Ali, a 42-year-old radical Muslim. ICC’s correspondent visited the > > tea > > > > > stall and observed that a large red warning sign with a death’s head > > symbol > > > > > was posted which read, *“All non-Muslims should introduce their faith > > > > > prior to ordering tea. This tea stall serves Muslims only.”* The > > warning > > > > > also threatened anyone who violated the rule with “dire > > consequences.” > > > > > > A neighboring shopkeeper told ICC on condition of anonymity that all > > Ali’s > > > > > employees are former students of radical Muslim madrassas > > (seminaries). > > > > > Ishtiaq’s family said that they immediately reported the incident to > > the > > > > > police and filed a case against Ali. However, the murderers are still > > freely > > > > > operating the tea stall. When ICC asked the Pindi Bhatian Saddar > > police > > > > > station about the murder, the police chief said that investigations > > were > > > > > underway and they are treating it as a faith-based murder by biased > > Muslims. > > > > > When asked about Ali’s warning sign, police chief Muhammad Iftikhar > > Bajwa > > > > > claimed that he could not take it down. 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