Fred - Let me say that if Mrs. Rabbit likes you, then you are alright by me. I have my own way of finding out about people and I usually do it in different ways. I appreciated many of the points you made, though I think you might be well advised to keep some of those "dumb redneck" comments (you never used the words, just the code) out of your comments. There are many southerners on this site. Anyhow, I actually enjoyed the sparring and hope we can do more, though I am perfectly fine with agreeing with you, if you are right.
Oh yeah, one more thing. When you get the gumption to climb a 14er, let this old porch sitter know and I will take you on a climb and leave you with a picture you will never forget. Cioa, buddy! On Jun 28, 7:12 pm, Frederick The Moderate <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Hollywood, I already find them both rather amusing. > > On Jun 28, 12:31 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Frederick, > > > BTW, see what i mean about ol' Travis? He can actually be rather > > amusing in a crude, clownish sort of way but he's not to be taken > > seriously. > > > On Jun 28, 2:07 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hollywood: "Where, in the post you are in theory answering did he make > > > fun > > > > > of people from Alabama? Where did he make fun of people that value > > > > individual freedoms and personal responsibility" > > > > Richard seems inclined to tell others what they are thinking - which > > > is where the facist remark came from (tongue in cheek). Obviously, I > > > did not make fun of people from Alabama or who value liberty or > > > freedoms. I think Richard is just you know, sensitive. ;-) > > > > On Jun 28, 11:54 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Richard, > > > > > Why don't you just point out any falsehoods or untruths in Frederick's > > > > post? Where, in the post you are in theory answering did he make fun > > > > of people from Alabama? Where did he make fun of people that value > > > > individual freedoms and personal responsibility? Do you want to adress > > > > what he actully said or do you want to blabber about what you THINK he > > > > means and/or implies? Let's see a little common sense and rational > > > > discourse. > > > > > On Jun 28, 1:16 pm, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > And, some can't face reality, so they lie about who they are and what > > > > > they believe and make fun of people from Alabama and those that value > > > > > individual freedoms and personal responsibility. If you think your > > > > > childish banter will change my core beliefs, you are more deluded than > > > > > you make out to be. > > > > > > On Jun 28, 12:09 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Peachy little diatribe ya got there Junior. Brings to mind the old > > > > > > phrase "So what". > > > > > > When they did all this, we had just finished a war with a monarchy. > > > > > > There as no such thing as a police force in America. Women couldn't > > > > > > vote. Blacks were property. Christianity was considered the national > > > > > > religion and Jews, Asians and other minorities were limited as to > > > > > > what > > > > > > they could own or what kind of businesses they could even be > > > > > > employed > > > > > > by. So while I love our Constitution and think that it is what makes > > > > > > our nation great, I also live in reality. It has evolved based on > > > > > > the > > > > > > will of the people and the influence of our leaders. Most of our > > > > > > leaders have protected it. Depending on whom you talk to, Bush and > > > > > > / > > > > > > or Obama have violated it. But our country is what it is. Some > > > > > > people > > > > > > do things to make it better. Others do nothing and that is their > > > > > > claim > > > > > > to making things better. Still others post lengthy, pseudo- > > > > > > intellectual bullshit and claim that somehow makes anything better. > > > > > > Oooh Rah. > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 9:19 am, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Our Founding Fathers, amongst the greatest of "classical liberals" > > > > > > > held dear, the concepts of individual liberty and the matching > > > > > > > trait > > > > > > > personal responsibility. However, their initial effort at > > > > > > > uniting the > > > > > > > country was a dismal failure. The Articles of Confederation were > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > loose, insufficiently uniting and failed to pull the former > > > > > > > colonies > > > > > > > together into a United States. But, these wise liberal thinkers > > > > > > > recognized the error of their ways and drafted an alternative. > > > > > > > It was > > > > > > > unique in the history of man. It established a centralized > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > government with strictly limited powers. All powers not directly > > > > > > > granted to the federal government were reserved to the states. In > > > > > > > fact, in order to preclude the excessive strengthening of an > > > > > > > "imperial > > > > > > > federal bureaucracy" these wise men identified certain "freedoms" > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > "rights" to all citizens. Rightly so, classical liberals of the > > > > > > > future continued to expand the definition of "citizens", but they > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > not make any effort to expand the rights and powers of the > > > > > > > "imperial > > > > > > > federal bureaucracy". However, the "neo-liberal" strain of > > > > > > > liberalism, has completely lost touch with the core ideas of > > > > > > > individual liberty and personal resposibility and the requisite > > > > > > > political structure of limited federal bureaucracy. In fact, the > > > > > > > neo- > > > > > > > liberal strain is rightly labeled as being closer to "communism" > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > they believe is the allocation of all wealth ("from those with the > > > > > > > most to those with the least") and massive centralized control of > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > aspects of the economy. I do not comprehend where the > > > > > > > "neo-liberals" > > > > > > > went wrong, but wrong they are! > > > > > > > > PS -- It is not the religious beliefs that are intolerable, but > > > > > > > rather the scum that have usurped the leadership positions. > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 10:03 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay then. I thought hollywood (or was it studio) was > > > > > > > > exxagerating but > > > > > > > > apparently, he was dead on in his assessment of the fear and > > > > > > > > resentment toward this and in Richard's case, all religions. > > > > > > > > Richard, although sad, I find your replies entertaining. > > > > > > > > Apparently, > > > > > > > > all forms of government and religion are just loathsome to you. > > > > > > > > Is > > > > > > > > there anything in which you do believe? Guiding principles or > > > > > > > > philosophy? Hopes, dreams, goals? Any ray of sunshine in that > > > > > > > > dismal > > > > > > > > existence of yours, which has been so wrongly impeded upon by > > > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > > forces? And really, if you are so against the things which are > > > > > > > > tantamount to American life, why live here? > > > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 9:53 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Someone posted that there is some pretty extreme prejudice > > > > > > > > > and hatred > > > > > > > > > here. True? Not True? What are your thoughts?- Hide quoted > > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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