Mrs, Rabbitt, He didn't. What does past or even current military service have to do with a discussion of theology, religion, etc.? BTW, I think the word your looking for would be "seize" and not "cease". I doubt he had the authority to have the seminary "cease" the teaching of a particular doctrine.
Inquiring minds want to know. :-) On Jun 29, 11:44 am, "Mrs. Rabbit" <[email protected]> wrote: > Seems like one who would be so dedicated to becoming a clergy wouldn't > let a little something like NOT agreeing with principles or scripture > come between you and your calling. Puzzling, really. Why didn't you > cease the opportunity to correct the questionable teachings?? > > btw, which branch of the military did you say you were in? > > Curious minds want to know. :D > > On Jun 29, 10:56 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Jun 29, 5:45 am, "Mrs. Rabbit" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ok, I know I'll be sorry, but please do tell what Jesus *really* > > > thought. :D > > > > Seminary? Really now? > > > At one time, I thought about becoming a pastor. So I got my degree in > > theology (you need a Masters in Divinity to be ordained by most > > churches). The focus of my studies was ancient Hebrew & Aramaic > > customs and idioms. > > > So what Jesus really taught? Just my opinion but there is MUCH to back > > it up. And it wasn't everything I believe, just a few points that were > > in direct contrast with most (Western) Christian churches that seem to > > ignore well, a LOT. > > 1. Jesus did not come to start a new religion. He came to open the > > Jewish belief in only one God, up to everyone else. > > 2. The Jews had forgotten God's message and turned religion into > > exactly what Travis and Richard talk about it being nowadays: a venue > > of exclusivity, arrogance and politics. Jesus' message was for the > > Jews to quit being "holier than thou", stop judging others and just do > > their best to live their own lives as spiritually as possible. > > Nowadays, this means that 99.9% of everything God creates, will be > > kept alive forever, for the purpose of crueltym because they are not > > just like "Christians". Swell. Wrong though. > > 3. Jesus did his best to make it clear: Whomever you would be quickest > > to judge (Samaritans, women, gays, Muslims etc) should be the person > > you make it your quest to learn to appreciate and if possible, even > > love. Later that came to mean Hate & Judge eveyone who isn't part of > > the Jesus Club. > > 4. Modern Christians are exactly like the Sadduccess and Pharisees > > (the good ol' folks who crucified him) of Jesus' day. Very political > > and self-righteous. Self-appointed to determine which parts of the > > Bible should be taken literally, which should be interpreted and how, > > and why you are going straight to hell if you disagree with them on > > any of this. > > 5. There is no Satan or Hell. > > 6. Revelation was just another piece of coded Apocrypha describing the > > current events of the times just after the crucifixion. > > 7. Jesus did not want this new brand of Judiasm rammed down people's > > throats but rather, growth similar to that of Buddhism - based solely > > on attraction. > > > There is much more about Western Christian churches with which I > > dissent. I respect people right to believe as they wish so I won't try > > to tell you or anyone else that you're following the "wrong path" > > because it is simply not for me to judge. Which is another difference > > between me and traditional Christians. They want to tell others all > > about their brand of religion without ever listening with an open mind > > or respecting somenone else's. > > All that being said, The Bible and especially the teachings of Jesus > > are my spiritual guide and way. > > > > On Jun 29, 1:00 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I was almost banned from seminary for my radical beliefs about > > > > Christianity and what Jesus really taught. Didn't matter. By the time > > > > I got my bachelor's, I'd decided that I loved learning the origins and > > > > histories of various religions but no longer subscribed to the > > > > exclusivity most believed in. > > > > I have a poster from my (soon to be published!) book, I made which > > > > kinda parodies those types of beliefs. I'll send it to the group with > > > > the hopes it doesn't offend as many people at "The Right to bear Arms" > > > > did. > > > > > On Jun 28, 9:49 pm, Perplexed <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree completely Richard. I'm one of those "spiritual but not > > > > > religious" folks, closer to Buddhism than Christianity in my beliefs. > > > > > But I detest what organized religion has done to religion. > > > > > > On Jun 28, 8:50 pm, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I am not agnostic, but I sure am agnostic about attending church. I > > > > > > learned the necessary lessons lon ago and have no use for being > > > > > > preached to or sold a bill of goods. Most religious leaders are on > > > > > > a > > > > > > level with used car salesmen and politicians. > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2:55 pm, studio <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 12:53 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Someone posted that there is some pretty extreme prejudice and > > > > > > > > hatred > > > > > > > > here. True? Not True? What are your thoughts? > > > > > > > > You found one of them already. > > > > > > > > But to address your question; > > > > > > > "What do you think of Islam"? > > > > > > > > I'm rather neutral in my assessment of Islam, much the way I am > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > any other religion, > > > > > > > except when they start preaching it to me, or corner me...then I > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > 'em have it. > > > > > > > > I had a Muslim Arab girlfriend at one point, and a couple > > > > > > > acquaintances, so I know the pros and cons. > > > > > > > There are good people from all walks of life regardless > > > > > > > what-where- > > > > > > > when-how they come > > > > > > > by it, I don't concentrate on the bad so much unless it actually > > > > > > > needs > > > > > > > redress. > > > > > > > Of course there are the bad apples also, but Islam has no > > > > > > > exclusive > > > > > > > rights to bad teachings. > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm agnostic, but I don't make a point of preaching > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > Let sleeping dogs lay so to speak. > > > > > > > If someone believes in a God, fine. > > > > > > > But don't be laying your God in my lap...as if you could anyway.- > > > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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