The Americans I know and run with frankly do NOT hate Moslem because of their religion... One lived in Turkey and related how Turks deal with Christianity there... Frankly it is the gleeful willingness of a minority to kill innocents which turn Christians and Moslems against one side or the other... From what I see, AQ and their ilk won that distinction in Iraqi opinion and thus Iraqi Moslem rejected fellow Moslems over Christians --- now that is a revolutionary hearsay....
What makes America dangerous for the Islamic Anti-Christian hate mangers is the freedom it allows Moslems to worship freely... The basic doctrine of "House of Peace" and "House of War" is turned on it head when an un-Islamic country grants greater freedom and fewer restrictions for Moslems to worship... As that doctrine is rooted in the defining "House of Peace" and "House of War" by the degree of a Nation-State's willingness to let a Moslem to worship freely, and built on the assumption that only a Moslem nation state would let Moslems worship freely, American and its American Moslems undermines the rational for AQ and Radical Islamic governance... Now AQ can complain about lack of material wealth, but not religious freedom... This strips AQ and Radical Islam of its religious authority because it shifts the battlefield they must fight in, to is it shifts the fight to material not religious issues... On Jun 29, 6:39 pm, Frederick The Moderate <[email protected]> wrote: > Good point. Very good point. I don't think Persians are any better > informed about us than the average American is about them. It's funny > to me that so many Conservatives here complain about "state-run" media > and yet, claim to know so much about Iran by quoting what? American > Media. lol. > Like Americans, the Persians think we hate them for no reason because > that is what they are told by their politicians and media > (unfortunately, it's pretty true). > Like Americans, Persians think much of this hatred toward them is > based on religion because their media reminds them of all the genocide > that Christianity has been responsible for and that our politicians > say things like "Killing Muslims is God's Work" or quote the Bible in > their military memoranda (also, sadly true). They also believe that > there are millions of Americans who have no personal experience with > Islam but hate all Muslims through ignorance and prejudice (as has > been shown on this very board, true). > Like Americans, Persians generally look down on their politicians and > know that those in the spotlight are rarely those possessing the real > power. > > Unlike (White Anglo-Saxon Christian) Americans, I have never entered a > Persian household without being kissed by everyone in the room > (including the men - it's not a gay thing there) and told that I am > too thin, thus subsequently force fed lest I insult my host. Think "My > Big Fate Persian Wedding" with different food. It's not that my > American friends aren't as warm or loving, it's just a different > culture. Oh, and none of them have tried to bomb me or kill me in my > sleep.... > > On Jun 29, 3:04 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> My in-laws are Persian (Iranian) and I'm both entertained and appalled > > >>> by some of the ignorance I see from Americans regarding recent > > > events. > > > Very True... Many refuse to understand Persian history pre 1953... > > Or the rivalry between the Iranians and Arabs.... Americans like > > most folks are self centered on their own affairs -- xenophobic.... > > The question is "Are the Iranians any more knowledgeable about > > Americans?" Or the Arabs for that matter -- too many time they > > confuse European ways as American ways --- American never was the > > Colonial power that the Europeans were, the Russian and Chinese are, > > and the Persian wish to be... > > > On Jun 27, 11:50 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Everyone: > > > > Just thought I'd introduce myself. My first presidential vote was for > > > Reagan and my most recent was for Obama. I'm proud of both of those > > > votes. I am a Christian family man, business owner and former military > > > (Office of Naval Intelligence). My degree is in Theology. So if it > > > wasn't for the total disregard of the Constitution by Bush / Cheney > > > and the GOP's tolerance and condoning of the abandonment of all the > > > things Reagan stood for, I might still be a Republican. As it is, I'm > > > an Independent. > > > Given the mess he inherited, I think Obama is doing okay so far. I'm > > > not happy about the bailouts or the deficit but I don't believe that > > > anyone could have avoided spending some money, to get us out of the > > > total disaster Bush left behind. I'm impressed by the fact that I've > > > seen improvements in the economy over the last few months. > > > I find Rush Limbaugh to epitomize everything that's wrong with my > > > former party. Complete hypocrite. Party before Country. The belief > > > that he should be able to impose morals upon others, while ignoring > > > them himself. What happened to the GOP I was a member of? I voted for > > > Bush Sr. and thought he was a pretty good president. I thought Clinton > > > was lucky at first but his second term convinced me he was a pretty > > > good president too. I didn't care about Lewinsky and don't care about > > > some Argentine girl either. > > > On the other side, I believe labor unions were out of control for > > > decades and led to job losses a smuch as anything else. I think it is > > > ridiculous that a teacher can be openly gay but not openly Christian > > > (I have nothing against gays, I just don't like prejudice in either > > > direction). > > > I believe in strong military DEFENSE and Intelligence but Iraq was > > > total BS and more importantly, UnConstitutional. I'm big on the > > > Constitution. > > > My in-laws are Persian (Iranian) and I'm both entertained and appalled > > > by some of the ignorance I see from Americans regarding recent > > > events. > > > I don't believe we need Affirmative Action anymore. I think NAFTA was > > > poorly negotiated and screws us. > > > I could go on but I think this lets you know a bit about me. > > > Cheers, > > > Frederick- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
