KIT,

Why, I wait in breathless anticipation to read your every golden
word.  :-)

On Jul 12, 9:47 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's nice to know that I am missed Holly......I haven't been active on the
> board, other than this weekend, in almost two weeks.  Glad to see that you
> noticed.....
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Hollywood 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > KIT,
>
> > Huh? You've been MIA for a couple of weeks? I spoke to you on another
> > thread maybe 6  or 7 hours ago. Do you mean MIA in your capacity as a
> > moderator, but not as a posting member? Have I been talking to another
> > Keith In Tampa?????
> > Heck, you posted in this thread today. What gives?
>
> > On Jul 12, 6:32 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hello Fred, Bruce, Holly, Richard, and all Group Members,
>
> > > I sincerely apologize, to Mark, to Mystery Moderater No. 1,
> > (affectionately
> > > called, "Newie" even though (s)he's been around the block a few times)
> >  but
> > > most importantly, to the Group as a whole.  I was missing in action for a
> > > couple of weeks, my schedule was rather hectic, (No.....I was slammed!!)
> > > and I literally had no time for moderation, much less trying to turn the
> > > light bulb on for Fred/Jack, Sean "SugarShack" Virtual Truth, Studio,
> > > Fritzie, Bill, Biffie, Golem, and all of our friends over at Euwetopia.
>
> > > In a nutshell, Bruce's comments were out of line, as were several other
> > > members.  I don't know who started it;  I point Bruce out, because it
> > seems
> > > as though you Fred, are inferring that Young Bruce is getting some kind
> > of
> > > special treatment, and that is incorrect.  The bottom line is, we don't
> > > allow for the nasty, vile personal attacks against another Group Member,
> > and
> > > I salute Mark for trying to keep a lid on it!
>
> > > We have only one rule here in PoliticalForum:  "Govern Yourself With
> > > Dignity, and be respectful of each and every other Member".   You can
> > find
> > > this rule, and our guidelines here:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum/web/political-forum-dec...
>
> > > For the most part, all of us here have known one another for years.  I am
> > > the proverbial "Newbie", being only a member since April of last year.
> > > Everyone seems to get along, and there is no reason for slinging hateful,
> > > nasty barbs and insulting commentary.
>
> > > There is a distinction between debate, I dare say even heated debate, and
> > > just downright offensive name calling and insult slinging.  We don't do
> > that
> > > here, and if that is the only way that you can express yourself, then I
> > > strongly suggest that you find another political discussion board.   It
> > just
> > > don't work here.
>
> > > The rule goes for everyone, from any political persuasion, and there are
> > no
> > > exceptions.
>
> > > If someone got their feelings hurt by something said here during the last
> > > couple of weeks, then I take full responsibility.  Again, I apologize for
> > > not being around like I was supposed to be.   I have corrected that
> > > problem.
>
> > > There is also a distinction between using colorful metaphors, and
> > slinging
> > > insulting "nasties" at another member, and we all know what I am talking
> > > about.   By example, Holly on occasion and from time to time uses the,
> > > "Colorful Metaphors".....Holly is not being insulting when he uses such
> > > language, Holly has been doing this ever since I have been a member of
> > PF,
> > > and I have no problem with it....As stated, that is the way that he
> > > expresses himself, and his comments are not directed at any one member to
> > > insult them.   Those of you who seem to want to analogize another Member
> > > with a part of either the male, or female anatomy, and/or make a
> > comparison
> > > to a Member with human, or any other animal species' body waste, again,
> > this
> > > is unacceptable.
>
> > > Again, I apologize for my absence.   I respectfully ask that everyone be
> > > respectful of each and every other member,  and if there is a question,
> > or
> > > if there is anything in this message that you don't understand, then by
> > all
> > > means, please feel free to contact me by e-mail.
>
> > > Respectfully,
>
> > > KeithInTampa
> > > Co-Moderator
>
> > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Frederick The Moderate <
>
> >  > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Well Keith, nice to write but I don't believe you. Virtually every
> > > > reply Bruce writes has his puerile little references to dicks, shit
> > > > etc... Now suddenly you are concerned that anyone does it? You're
> > > > lying and the proof will come as soon as Bruce writes his next few
> > > > replies and lo what do you know - he remains in the group anyway
> > > > because as the pigs put it "some are more equal than others".
> > > > Look I don't care. I don't bother reading his replies etc... because
> > > > it's all the same pattern: 1. Find something to criticize 2. Disagree
> > > > with any point made by those have have kicked his ass in various
> > > > discussions (poor little guy definitely holds onto anger ;). 3. When
> > > > he starts getting his ass kicked again, act like he was talking on
> > > > some larger, philosophical level that no one else can understand (a
> > > > tactic used by both extremists and mental ward patients) 4. Make some
> > > > insults. 5. Start new post or replies. 6. Repeat pattern. Just take a
> > > > look at any thread and it's evident. I can provide a dozen examples
> > > > that are laughably dead on to this.
>
> > > > There are people who are actually worth engaging in debates with - and
> > > > then there is Bruce. And Zeb. And on the Left, Saint Bezaerk and
> > > > Rebel. They all possess pretty much the same personal character. Their
> > > > weakness and fragile egos are evidenced by their inability to ever
> > > > acknowldge countering points. Instead, like any frightened small
> > > > animal, they attack the moment they feel cornered. Pretty basic
> > > > psych101 stuff and really, who cares?
>
> > > > On the other side, I've actually reconsidered a few of my opinions on
> > > > subejects because of (surprisingly) Dick, Hollywood (there's two ends
> > > > of the spectrum for you!) and others who have the reason, maturity and
> > > > class that actually persuades people to at least consider their
> > > > insights. Legalizing pot, for example.
> > > > That is worthwhile as opposed to interacting someone who is the
> > > > equivalent of a computer-enabled homeless person who comes at you
> > > > swearing and screaming, and wonders why no one takes them seriously.
>
> > > > So okay, the personal attacks, swearing etc... is going to be stopped?
> > > > We'll see.
> > > >  On Jul 12, 12:32 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hello Fred?
>
> > > > > WTF???
>
> > > > >  What is it that you believe this thread is about?  What is the major
> > > > point
> > > > > of this thread?  What is it it that you are in disagreement with
> > Bruce
> > > > > about?  Somewhere, I got lost in the shuffle.
>
> > > > > If you go down (or up) from this thread, you will see my point about
> > > > Holly.
> > > > > Some ignorant statement about Ronald Reagan not being a Libertarian,
> > but
> > > > > rather a Republican.
>
> > > > > Yes, we will remain civil on this board.  Its one thing to attack an
> > > > > individual's political philosophy or ideas, and its quite another to
> > just
> > > > > sling nasty personal attacks at one another.  That goes for Bruce,
> > me,
> > > > every
> > > > > other member on this board, it matters not what your political
> > philosophy
> > > > > is.  Nevertheless, the mudslinging and nasty barbs are unbecoming
> > from
> > > > > you....Just as they are from Bruce.  That crap stops now.
>
> > > > > We will continue to allow for Holly to "shine the light" on
> > > > inconsequential
> > > > > matters that have nothing to do with the issues at hand, or that are
> > > > being
> > > > > discussed in any particular thread.
>
> > > > > Again, you have lost me in whatever point that it is you are
> > attempting
> > > > to
> > > > > make.
>
> > > > > I clearly said that Bruce and I don't see eye to eye on Immigration,
> > he
> > > > > holds Libertarian Party tenets, as opposed to a Libertarian Ideology,
> > and
> > > > > again, this is just but one example, of why I ask Holly to read the
> > posts
> > > > > several times before he responds.  I could not have made it any
> > clearer
> > > > > above.
>
> > > > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Frederick The Moderate <
>
> > > >  > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Well Keith, that was a complete load and you know it. Although I
> > like
> > > > > > the "Oh gee, I haven't had a chance to read the thread" attempt at
> > a
> > > > > > complete dodge, the conclusion is inescapable. Bruce was just
> > slinging
> > > > > > his usual bs and you were siding with Bruce only because of the
> > > > > > personalities and obviously not because of the points being made.
> > It's
> > > > > > cool Keith, at least you have a bit of class.
> > > > > > So again obviously this was not some abstract conversation about
> > the
> > > > > > rights of governments in general. Bruce's cop out when he realizes
> > his
> > > > > > bullshit is being walked all over is to wax poetic and then act as
> > if
> > > > > > others are somehow, just not on his level (of complete bullshit). I
> > > > > > even anticipated this because it's so predictibel from him and I
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > "I guess you could go with a cop out like, this was some deep,
> > > > > > esoteric bullshit but really, Bruce was just being Bruce: babbling
> > > > > > crap..." Which he was nice enough to prove with his very next post
> > ;-)
> > > > > > This was a very specific topic about the rights of illegal aliens
> > and
> > > > > > the obligation (or in Bruce's replies "rights") of our government
> > to
> > > > > > enforce immigration laws. The Reader's Digest version so you won't
> > cop
> > > > > > out to the ""Gee, i didn't have time to read it
>
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