>you manufacture and sell more weapons of any type than any other nation in the >world.
Actually, the AK-47 is the most widely used assault rifle on the planet. It is well built, reliable and relatively easy to get. On Jul 18, 9:21 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Dick, > > Based on your level of claims and proofs and the inclusion of any and all > past practice the most guilty nation on earth is the good ole USA. you > manufacture and sell more weapons of any type than any other nation in the > world. You have toppled more democracies than any other nation in the world. > You have directly or indirectly sponsored terrorist groups including the > Taliban, AQ and Hamas/Hezbollah. I could go on and on.... > > that is using YOUR logic displayed in this thread. > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM, dick thompson <[email protected]>wrote: > > > If it was prohibited, then why did they pass the legislation that allowed > > him to do it. If as you say they had been told your truth, then why did we > > have the 22 statements from senior dems that Saddam had WMD and other > > vicious materiel. And those statements were made between 1998 and 2002 by > > all the leaders of the Senate, the House and the President. > > > Mark wrote: > > > Clinton did not commit the US to armed conflict... it was prohibited by a > > congress that had been told the truth. > > > Further release date is NOT important.... it was signed in Sept. of 2006... > > no wiggle room there > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:52 PM, dick thompson > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> What I threw out at you was info about the use of gas on the Kurds (true) > >> and about the fact that the US did not provide the nuclear equipment that > >> Saddam had (true) and that Clinton signed a bill authorizing him to cause > >> regime change in Iraq (true). Also note that the chairman of the committee > >> was not a Republican, we have no idea of the bipartisan makeup and vote of > >> the committee, the report was released in 2008 (the Republicans were not in > >> charge then). Also look back on the Senate report on 9/11 and what a load > >> of bull that one was! Why should I accept this then. > > >> Mark wrote: > > >> Yes it was and you decided to try a history lesson on me and throw out > >> some "holier than thou" Gringo bullshit > > >> again read the ONLY empiracal repoort done on this > >>http://intelligence.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=298775 then choke mon > >> your BS > > >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM, dick thompson > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>> The subject was AFghanistan and Iraq > > >>> Mark wrote: > > >>> how about the thirty oir so thousand that died in central america in > >>> the same time period at thands of alzheimer ronnie. ?? US forces lead by > >>> Felix Rodriguez (I know, I met him there) > > >>> please read the republican dominated "senate intelligence report" from > >>> sept 2006 that says ALL the info you are trying to feed me now is pure > >>> BULLSHIT.... > > >>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> >Thedifference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > >>>> having gas was 25 years..... > > >>>> Really?LOL! Did the thousands who died wretching deaths come back to > >>>> life in those 25 years? Did Saddam act like he'd become a humanitarian > >>>> in those 25 years? Oh WAIT! Thats right! Saddam insisted that he still > >>>> HAD WMDs. Only when the UN sanctioned him did he say they were > >>>> gone.....supplying no evidence of their disposal, of course. > > >>>> >as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > >>>> it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... > > >>>> ROTFLMAO. You are either a very bad liar or a complete idiot. I think > >>>> both. Bye! > > >>>> On Jul 18, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > I didn't think he ahd gas or wmd's or nukes (though I Knew he was > >>>> > sitting on a research reactor and a mountain of yellow cake) The > >>>> > difference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > >>>> > having gas was 25 years..... > > >>>> > as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > >>>> > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... You are right the US is a > >>>> > danger even to itself. The only deluded person/people seems to be you > >>>> > and Gringolandia. > > >>>> > On Jul 18, 12:07 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > >If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. > > >>>> > > We thought he had poison gas. Our soldiers were equipped to confront > >>>> > > it. > > >>>> > > Everybody thought he had WMDs, mostly because he not only HAD them > >>>> but > >>>> > > because he used them against his enemies. > > >>>> > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state > > >>>> > > Actually, they were. Iraq had completed construction of a nuclear > >>>> > > reactor (That makes you a nuclear nation state) but Israel > >>>> immediately > >>>> > > blew it up. (Thank you Israel). > > >>>> > > Some people would say that a leader who builds a nuclear reactor > >>>> > > despite worldwide protests and has and uses poison gas on > >>>> neighboring > >>>> > > countries and his own people was a dangerous guy. Other people like > >>>> > > deluding themselves. > > >>>> > > On Jul 18, 1:42 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > >>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > > > If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. > >>>> Large, > >>>> > > > tight formations are easy targets and we know that. Not to mention > >>>> > > > that we would have sent a least one division to sweep and search > >>>> the > >>>> > > > area where we "knew" the WMD's were for residual (or any other) > >>>> > > > evidence they ever existed. We never did. Not one peek. I'm former > >>>> > > > navy intel and i can assure you, even though Bush screwed our > >>>> Humint > >>>> > > > network fro some time to come, we still would have been able to > >>>> find > >>>> > > > evidence - if believed it was ever there. > >>>> > > > But I get it. You really, really, really want to believe there > >>>> were > >>>> > > > WMD's there. Okay. > > >>>> > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state > >>>> but > >>>> > > > again, if you really want to believe it is or was, okay dokey. > > >>>> > > > Talk about wanting to believe lies. > > >>>> > > > I've lost five friends in Iraq. All of them Psy-Ops and a couple > >>>> Force > >>>> > > > Recon. They've made it clear for years that Iraq will never > >>>> appreciate > >>>> > > > what we've done and no matter how long we're there, they'll > >>>> regress > >>>> > > > shortly after we leave. Two thousand years of culture. > >>>> > > > Iraq has already made clear they view US as outsiders and went out > >>>> of > >>>> > > > the way to spit in Bush's face before he could get out of office. > >>>> But > >>>> > > > you believe what you want to believe. > > >>>> > > > On Jul 18, 7:23 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > > > >>> We also had the certainty that there really were no WMD's > > >>>> > > > > Not true. > > >>>> > > > > >>> Urban warfare, their commitment to keep fighting people they > >>>> viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any kind of > > >>>> > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > > >>>> > > > > Once again you show little understanding... Both AQ and the > >>>> > > > > Americans are outsiders... As is the harsh form of Radical > >>>> Islam... > >>>> > > > > As is the lowland Pakistani... The question here is not > >>>> fighting the > >>>> > > > > outsider BUT WHICH OUTSIDER... The exit strategy? Stability > >>>> and a > >>>> > > > > non Radical Islamic government in a nuclear nation-state... > > >>>> > > > > >>> I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border > >>>> them. They had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & > >>>> technology have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only > >>>> at > >>>> blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's a mess > > >>>> > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > > >>>> > > > > Tactics and technology make a huge difference... As the fact > >>>> the our > >>>> > > > > WILLINGNESS and desire to be a long term occupying power is far > >>>> less > >>>> > > > > than the Russians or the Pakistanis as makes a difference... > >>>> The > >>>> > > > > Russian border aided in supplying their troops but harmed the > >>>> "Soft > >>>> > > > > Warfare" in being seen a a long term occupying power... > > >>>> > > > > >>> The only upside is at least we're actually going after > >>>> people we have truthful cause to go after. > > >>>> > > > > Once again you proclaim Urban Lies... > > >>>> > > > > On Jul 18, 3:58 am, Frederick The Moderate > > >>>> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > > > > > I agree with you about Iraq. We had so many sanctions on Iraq > >>>> before > >>>> > > > > > invading, they couldn't import dental equipment (because it > >>>> could > >>>> > > > > > possibly be modified for weapons use - go figure). We also had > >>>> the > >>>> > > > > > certainty that there really were no WMD's. So it was nothing > >>>> to storm > >>>> > > > > > right in. Like you said, cakewalk getting there. It was > >>>> afterward the > >>>> > > > > > problems started. Urban warfare, their commitment to keep > >>>> fighting > >>>> > > > > > people they viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any > >>>> kind of > >>>> > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > >>>> > > > > > I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border > >>>> them. They > >>>> > > > > > had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & > >>>> technology > >>>> > > > > > have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only > >>>> at > >>>> > > > > > blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's > >>>> a mess > >>>> > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > >>>> > > > > > The only upside is at least we're actually going after people > >>>> we have > >>>> > > > > > truthful cause to go after. > > >>>> > > > > > On Jul 17, > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
