So it is a change of arguement when I point out the flaw or lack of logical progression in someones line of thought??
Now that IS laughable. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do you always try to change the subject to a different place, time and > subject when you lose arguments? LOL! > > On Jul 18, 5:27 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > how about the thirty oir so thousand that died in central america in the > > same time period at thands of alzheimer ronnie. ?? US forces lead by > Felix > > Rodriguez (I know, I met him there) > > > > please read the republican dominated "senate intelligence report" from > sept > > 2006 that says ALL the info you are trying to feed me now is pure > > BULLSHIT.... > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >Thedifference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > > > having gas was 25 years..... > > > > > Really?LOL! Did the thousands who died wretching deaths come back to > > > life in those 25 years? Did Saddam act like he'd become a humanitarian > > > in those 25 years? Oh WAIT! Thats right! Saddam insisted that he still > > > HAD WMDs. Only when the UN sanctioned him did he say they were > > > gone.....supplying no evidence of their disposal, of course. > > > > > >as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > > > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... > > > > > ROTFLMAO. You are either a very bad liar or a complete idiot. I think > > > both. Bye! > > > > > On Jul 18, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I didn't think he ahd gas or wmd's or nukes (though I Knew he was > > > > sitting on a research reactor and a mountain of yellow cake) The > > > > difference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > > > > having gas was 25 years..... > > > > > > as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > > > > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... You are right the US is a > > > > danger even to itself. The only deluded person/people seems to be > you > > > > and Gringolandia. > > > > > > On Jul 18, 12:07 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. > > > > > > > We thought he had poison gas. Our soldiers were equipped to > confront > > > > > it. > > > > > > > Everybody thought he had WMDs, mostly because he not only HAD them > but > > > > > because he used them against his enemies. > > > > > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state > > > > > > > Actually, they were. Iraq had completed construction of a nuclear > > > > > reactor (That makes you a nuclear nation state) but Israel > immediately > > > > > blew it up. (Thank you Israel). > > > > > > > Some people would say that a leader who builds a nuclear reactor > > > > > despite worldwide protests and has and uses poison gas on > neighboring > > > > > countries and his own people was a dangerous guy. Other people like > > > > > deluding themselves. > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 1:42 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. > > > Large, > > > > > > tight formations are easy targets and we know that. Not to > mention > > > > > > that we would have sent a least one division to sweep and search > the > > > > > > area where we "knew" the WMD's were for residual (or any other) > > > > > > evidence they ever existed. We never did. Not one peek. I'm > former > > > > > > navy intel and i can assure you, even though Bush screwed our > Humint > > > > > > network fro some time to come, we still would have been able to > find > > > > > > evidence - if believed it was ever there. > > > > > > But I get it. You really, really, really want to believe there > were > > > > > > WMD's there. Okay. > > > > > > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state > but > > > > > > again, if you really want to believe it is or was, okay dokey. > > > > > > > > Talk about wanting to believe lies. > > > > > > > > I've lost five friends in Iraq. All of them Psy-Ops and a couple > > > Force > > > > > > Recon. They've made it clear for years that Iraq will never > > > appreciate > > > > > > what we've done and no matter how long we're there, they'll > regress > > > > > > shortly after we leave. Two thousand years of culture. > > > > > > Iraq has already made clear they view US as outsiders and went > out of > > > > > > the way to spit in Bush's face before he could get out of office. > But > > > > > > you believe what you want to believe. > > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 7:23 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> We also had the certainty that there really were no WMD's > > > > > > > > > Not true. > > > > > > > > > >>> Urban warfare, their commitment to keep fighting people > they > > > viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any kind of > > > > > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > > > > > > > > > Once again you show little understanding... Both AQ and the > > > > > > > Americans are outsiders... As is the harsh form of Radical > > > Islam... > > > > > > > As is the lowland Pakistani... The question here is not > fighting > > > the > > > > > > > outsider BUT WHICH OUTSIDER... The exit strategy? Stability > and > > > a > > > > > > > non Radical Islamic government in a nuclear nation-state... > > > > > > > > > >>> I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border > them. > > > They had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & > technology > > > have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only at blowing > up > > > weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's a mess > > > > > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > > > > > > > > > Tactics and technology make a huge difference... As the fact > the > > > our > > > > > > > WILLINGNESS and desire to be a long term occupying power is far > > > less > > > > > > > than the Russians or the Pakistanis as makes a difference... > The > > > > > > > Russian border aided in supplying their troops but harmed the > "Soft > > > > > > > Warfare" in being seen a a long term occupying power... > > > > > > > > > >>> The only upside is at least we're actually going after > people > > > we have truthful cause to go after. > > > > > > > > > Once again you proclaim Urban Lies... > > > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 3:58 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree with you about Iraq. We had so many sanctions on Iraq > > > before > > > > > > > > invading, they couldn't import dental equipment (because it > could > > > > > > > > possibly be modified for weapons use - go figure). We also > had > > > the > > > > > > > > certainty that there really were no WMD's. So it was nothing > to > > > storm > > > > > > > > right in. Like you said, cakewalk getting there. It was > afterward > > > the > > > > > > > > problems started. Urban warfare, their commitment to keep > > > fighting > > > > > > > > people they viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any > kind > > > of > > > > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > > > > > > > > I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border > them. > > > They > > > > > > > > had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & > > > technology > > > > > > > > have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only > at > > > > > > > > blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's > a > > > mess > > > > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > > > > > > > > The only upside is at least we're actually going after people > we > > > have > > > > > > > > truthful cause to go after. > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 11:40 pm, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Iraq was [almost] a cake walk, compared to what we face in > > > > > > > > > Afghanistan. Even with enough troops (500,000 +/-), it'll > take > > > a > > > > > > > > > generation to pacify Afghanistan - a mountainous moonscape > the > > > size of > > > > > > > > > Texas covered with 70-million ants (nomads, warring tribes > - > > > barefoot, > > > > > > > > > illiterate villages). There's nothing there to "rebuild," > it's > > > all > > > > > > > > > from scratch. The people are suspicious of everything, even > a > > > simple, > > > > > > > > > local hydro-pump to generate electricity. > > > > > > > > > > > Then there's Pakistan, blood-brother to Afghanistan; we'll > > > never > > > > > > > > > subdue one without subduing the other. And by that time > we'll > > > be > > > > > > > > > broke, no longer a viable nation - which makes the whole > surge- > > > > > > > > > strategy a lethal mistake.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > Mark M. Kahle, ,www.filacoffee.com > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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