Lone Wolf,

                        Then list the so called capitalists ,
bankers , pharmaceuticles etc. that supported Obama and how much. I
think you will see they supported all the candidates at some scale.
That is the business way you support them all.



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On Aug 12, 1:06 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote:
> One thing that can be depended on is that there is no limit to the
> deeps of stupidity that conservatives will go--they can be relied upon
> to expound ever more absurd, idiotic claims as every thing they based
> their whole pathetic existance on is flushed into the sewer where it
> belongs for all time. That conservatism still exists n the 21st
> century is an indictment on capitalism in itself--it takes a backward
> ideology to maintain an outdated anachronism like capitalism--it
> requires the belief and worship of the absurd, the improbable, the
> ridiculous and the inane.
>
> For your idiot claim to be correct, it means that the Wall Street
> Bankers, investors, the private health care and pharmaceutical
> companies, just to name a few, contributed millions of dollars to fund
> the election of a socialist president. These ruthless capitalist
> profiteers suddenly had a change of heart and decided that they prefer
> a socialist government that would slash their profits and personal
> incomes. Maybe Obama outfoxed them and they didn't know he was a
> closet socialist?
>
> On Aug 12, 7:53 pm, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > How End-Users Suffer Under Socialism
> > By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:20 PM PT
>
> > Economic Systems: If you ever wonder why we so resist socialism, consider 
> > the latest news out of that collectivist island paradise known as Cuba.
>
> > Central planners announced this week that they were fresh out of money to 
> > buy toilet paper — yes, toilet paper — for the island's 9 million citizens. 
> > But not to worry. A nameless official for state-run monopoly Cimex and 
> > quoted by Reuters assured that "the corporation has taken all the steps so 
> > that at the end of the year there will be an important importation of 
> > toilet paper."
>
> > The predicament would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. But toilet tissue 
> > is hardly the only item Cuba is lacking. Food itself is in short supply, 
> > with red bean and chickpea rations cut by a third, according to the Miami 
> > Herald. Special hard-currency-only stores for the elites have mysteriously 
> > failed to open after last week's "inventory," with no explanation given.
>
> > There's no gas, either. The Associated Press this week reported that state 
> > planners have decreed that oxen — yes, oxen — would replace tractors in the 
> > fields, a bid to conserve fuel. This, despite the fact that Cuba gets 
> > 100,000 barrels of oil a day from Hugo Chavez's Venezuela — effectively 
> > free, because Cuba never pays its bills.
>
> > But again, not to worry: Cuban socialists say the ox represents progress 
> > because it's so eco-friendly.
>
> > As these examples of Cuban progress roll in, CNN is presenting Cuba's 
> > socialized health care system as "a model for health care reform in the 
> > United States," according to a report on the cable network last week. The 
> > report credits low cost and universal coverage.
>
> > "How does Cuba do it?" gushed the CNN anchor. "First of all, the government 
> > dictates salaries. Doctors earn less than $30 per month — very little 
> > compared to doctors elsewhere. And priority is given to avoiding expensive 
> > procedures, says Gail Reed (a contributor to the Cuban communist party 
> > propaganda organ Granma), who's lived and worked in Cuba for decades."
>
> > But instead of pluses, these features are at the root of why the Cuban 
> > system is not a model. Government-dictated salaries — like Medicare 
> > payments here — reduce incentives for doctors to provide quality care. And 
> > when cheap procedures are a priority — as they are, say, in the U.K. — 
> > teeth get pulled instead of filled. But the basic problem with socialism is 
> > that there's literally nothing there.
>
> > CNN gives little attention to the fact that hospitals in Cuba have no 
> > Band-Aids and are short on aspirin and actual medicine. Photos from 
> > TheRealCuba.com show hospitals strewn with filthy mattresses, infested with 
> > cockroaches and full of bony patients nursing ugly bedsores. The only 
> > plenty within Cuba's universal coverage system is one of want.
>
> > The scary thing is that if you copy that system, the same shortages appear. 
> > Take Venezuela, which is following the socialist model and now suffers 
> > shortages of milk, meat, steel, gasoline and tires. (Yes, it too had a run 
> > on toilet paper a few years back.)
>
> > This week, the country crossed its first milestone for socialist street 
> > cred. It was forced for the first time in its history to import a crop it 
> > has grown exquisitely well since 1730: coffee.
>
> > The problem with the telltale shortages in Cuba isn't a few incompetents at 
> > a state-owned toilet-paper company or some hurricane that's wiped out its 
> > crops. Nor is it the U.S. trade embargo of which the country constantly 
> > complains.
>
> > "The system itself is dysfunctional," explains Brian Latell, a leading 
> > expert on Cuba at the University of Miami. "Workers have scarcely any 
> > incentive to be productive. The distribution and transportation systems 
> > have broken down."
>
> > Even with slight improvements from the newer Raul Castro administration, 
> > "it's a centrally planned economy and still highly centralized. There's 
> > little private enterprise and initiative."
>
> > The shortages are a natural byproduct of central planning, price-fixing and 
> > a system that disregards human nature.
>
> > Yes, four hurricanes did damage estimated at $10 billion last year, Latell 
> > acknowledges. But Cuba has also been a bad credit risk for nearly 50 years, 
> > he adds, limiting its own access to credit out of loathing for capitalism. 
> > That has cut into the nation's productive capacity, which was once one of 
> > Latin America's highest.
>
> > Now, "they're not producing anything to speak of to earn hard currency, 
> > they're not exporting to earn, and the economy is in a terrible state," 
> > Latell says.
>
> > An economic system that can't supply its people with commodities as basic 
> > as toilet paper is no model for anyone.
>
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