Of course they buy off both parties--that is the capitalist way. Buy off everyone.
On Aug 13, 3:28 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > Lone Wolf, > > Then list the so called capitalists , > bankers , pharmaceuticles etc. that supported Obama and how much. I > think you will see they supported all the candidates at some scale. > That is the business way you support them all. > > **************************************************************************************************************************** > > On Aug 12, 1:06 pm, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > One thing that can be depended on is that there is no limit to the > > deeps of stupidity that conservatives will go--they can be relied upon > > to expound ever more absurd, idiotic claims as every thing they based > > their whole pathetic existance on is flushed into the sewer where it > > belongs for all time. That conservatism still exists n the 21st > > century is an indictment on capitalism in itself--it takes a backward > > ideology to maintain an outdated anachronism like capitalism--it > > requires the belief and worship of the absurd, the improbable, the > > ridiculous and the inane. > > > For your idiot claim to be correct, it means that the Wall Street > > Bankers, investors, the private health care and pharmaceutical > > companies, just to name a few, contributed millions of dollars to fund > > the election of a socialist president. These ruthless capitalist > > profiteers suddenly had a change of heart and decided that they prefer > > a socialist government that would slash their profits and personal > > incomes. Maybe Obama outfoxed them and they didn't know he was a > > closet socialist? > > > On Aug 12, 7:53 pm, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > How End-Users Suffer Under Socialism > > > By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:20 PM PT > > > > Economic Systems: If you ever wonder why we so resist socialism, consider > > > the latest news out of that collectivist island paradise known as Cuba. > > > > Central planners announced this week that they were fresh out of money to > > > buy toilet paper — yes, toilet paper — for the island's 9 million > > > citizens. But not to worry. A nameless official for state-run monopoly > > > Cimex and quoted by Reuters assured that "the corporation has taken all > > > the steps so that at the end of the year there will be an important > > > importation of toilet paper." > > > > The predicament would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. But toilet > > > tissue is hardly the only item Cuba is lacking. Food itself is in short > > > supply, with red bean and chickpea rations cut by a third, according to > > > the Miami Herald. Special hard-currency-only stores for the elites have > > > mysteriously failed to open after last week's "inventory," with no > > > explanation given. > > > > There's no gas, either. The Associated Press this week reported that > > > state planners have decreed that oxen — yes, oxen — would replace > > > tractors in the fields, a bid to conserve fuel. This, despite the fact > > > that Cuba gets 100,000 barrels of oil a day from Hugo Chavez's Venezuela > > > — effectively free, because Cuba never pays its bills. > > > > But again, not to worry: Cuban socialists say the ox represents progress > > > because it's so eco-friendly. > > > > As these examples of Cuban progress roll in, CNN is presenting Cuba's > > > socialized health care system as "a model for health care reform in the > > > United States," according to a report on the cable network last week. The > > > report credits low cost and universal coverage. > > > > "How does Cuba do it?" gushed the CNN anchor. "First of all, the > > > government dictates salaries. Doctors earn less than $30 per month — very > > > little compared to doctors elsewhere. And priority is given to avoiding > > > expensive procedures, says Gail Reed (a contributor to the Cuban > > > communist party propaganda organ Granma), who's lived and worked in Cuba > > > for decades." > > > > But instead of pluses, these features are at the root of why the Cuban > > > system is not a model. Government-dictated salaries — like Medicare > > > payments here — reduce incentives for doctors to provide quality care. > > > And when cheap procedures are a priority — as they are, say, in the U.K. > > > — teeth get pulled instead of filled. But the basic problem with > > > socialism is that there's literally nothing there. > > > > CNN gives little attention to the fact that hospitals in Cuba have no > > > Band-Aids and are short on aspirin and actual medicine. Photos from > > > TheRealCuba.com show hospitals strewn with filthy mattresses, infested > > > with cockroaches and full of bony patients nursing ugly bedsores. The > > > only plenty within Cuba's universal coverage system is one of want. > > > > The scary thing is that if you copy that system, the same shortages > > > appear. Take Venezuela, which is following the socialist model and now > > > suffers shortages of milk, meat, steel, gasoline and tires. (Yes, it too > > > had a run on toilet paper a few years back.) > > > > This week, the country crossed its first milestone for socialist street > > > cred. It was forced for the first time in its history to import a crop it > > > has grown exquisitely well since 1730: coffee. > > > > The problem with the telltale shortages in Cuba isn't a few incompetents > > > at a state-owned toilet-paper company or some hurricane that's wiped out > > > its crops. Nor is it the U.S. trade embargo of which the country > > > constantly complains. > > > > "The system itself is dysfunctional," explains Brian Latell, a leading > > > expert on Cuba at the University of Miami. "Workers have scarcely any > > > incentive to be productive. The distribution and transportation systems > > > have broken down." > > > > Even with slight improvements from the newer Raul Castro administration, > > > "it's a centrally planned economy and still highly centralized. There's > > > little private enterprise and initiative." > > > > The shortages are a natural byproduct of central planning, price-fixing > > > and a system that disregards human nature. > > > > Yes, four hurricanes did damage estimated at $10 billion last year, > > > Latell acknowledges. But Cuba has also been a bad credit risk for nearly > > > 50 years, he adds, limiting its own access to credit out of loathing for > > > capitalism. That has cut into the nation's productive capacity, which was > > > once one of Latin America's highest. > > > > Now, "they're not producing anything to speak of to earn hard currency, > > > they're not exporting to earn, and the economy is in a terrible state," > > > Latell says. > > > > An economic system that can't supply its people with commodities as basic > > > as toilet paper is no model for anyone. > > > >http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=334882669428387-Hide > > >quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
