Who should???  Palin used the term "Death Panel"... Democrats
objected...   Palin's graphic point was limiting health care due to
cost to the most vulnerable -- the elderly, the poor, the children
with birth defects -- is a "death panel"...   As Obama broached the
very same possibility, to suggest it just is Palin going over the top
is partisan...

So let us hear Obama in his own words "And that's part of why you have
to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It's not
determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance.
And that's part of what I suspect you'll see emerging out of the
various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill
right now"

 So who decides???   To pretend Obama did not raise the question of
"Death Panels" by denial of service due to cost is not helpful in this
debate.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/08/12/will-you-won-t-you-be-on-my-death-panel.aspx

>>>     THE PRESIDENT: ... I don't know how much that hip replacement cost. I 
>>> would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she's 
>>> my grandmother. Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those 
>>> decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else's aging grandparents or 
>>> parents, a hip replacement when they're terminally ill is a sustainable 
>>> model, is a very difficult question. If somebody told me that my 
>>> grandmother couldn't have a hip replacement and she had to lie there in 
>>> misery in the waning days of her life - that would be pretty upsetting.

    LEONHARDT: And it's going to be hard for people who don't have the
option of paying for it.

    THE PRESIDENT: So that's where I think you just get into some very
difficult moral issues. But that's also a huge driver of cost, right?

    I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their
lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health
care bill out here.

    LEONHARDT: So how do you - how do we deal with it?

    THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that there is going to have to be a
conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And
then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic
conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the
country making those decisions just through the normal political
channels. And that's part of why you have to have some independent
group that can give you guidance. It's not determinative, but I think
has to be able to give you some guidance. And that's part of what I
suspect you'll see emerging out of the various health care
conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.
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