Well let's not just call it a "Death Panel".  How about "Health Cost
Containment Committee"?  :-)

On Aug 13, 7:58 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
> Who should???  Palin used the term "Death Panel"... Democrats
> objected...   Palin's graphic point was limiting health care due to
> cost to the most vulnerable -- the elderly, the poor, the children
> with birth defects -- is a "death panel"...   As Obama broached the
> very same possibility, to suggest it just is Palin going over the top
> is partisan...
>
> So let us hear Obama in his own words "And that's part of why you have
> to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It's not
> determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance.
> And that's part of what I suspect you'll see emerging out of the
> various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill
> right now"
>
>  So who decides???   To pretend Obama did not raise the question of
> "Death Panels" by denial of service due to cost is not helpful in this
> debate.
>
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/08/12/will-yo...
>
> >>>     THE PRESIDENT: ... I don't know how much that hip replacement cost. I 
> >>> would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she's 
> >>> my grandmother. Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those 
> >>> decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else's aging grandparents 
> >>> or parents, a hip replacement when they're terminally ill is a 
> >>> sustainable model, is a very difficult question. If somebody told me that 
> >>> my grandmother couldn't have a hip replacement and she had to lie there 
> >>> in misery in the waning days of her life - that would be pretty upsetting.
>
>     LEONHARDT: And it's going to be hard for people who don't have the
> option of paying for it.
>
>     THE PRESIDENT: So that's where I think you just get into some very
> difficult moral issues. But that's also a huge driver of cost, right?
>
>     I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their
> lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health
> care bill out here.
>
>     LEONHARDT: So how do you - how do we deal with it?
>
>     THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that there is going to have to be a
> conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And
> then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic
> conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the
> country making those decisions just through the normal political
> channels. And that's part of why you have to have some independent
> group that can give you guidance. It's not determinative, but I think
> has to be able to give you some guidance. And that's part of what I
> suspect you'll see emerging out of the various health care
> conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.
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