The rich Jews of Wall Street finance the left, vote for the left, throw fund-raising parties for the left ---- yet they'll throw their latest puppet under the bus in a heartbeat they did it to Carter and Bush and they'll eventually do it Obama
in fact, here's the latest that AIPAC will be telling US jews: "The Obama administration is trashing the American heritage, a heritage very much influenced by Jewish law, as was recognized by learned men of eighteenth-century America. Are you going to let the Netanyahu government trash the Jewish heritage by allowing the followers of Muhammad establish an Islamic state in Judea and Samaria? Where is the outrage? Where is a Tom Paine, a Patrick Henry? Do we have only Benedict Arnolds!" (Jerusalem Foundation for Constitutional Democracy in English -- Website of right-wing group led by Professor Paul Eidelberg, promoting a constitution based on Jewish principles, electoral and judicial reforms, and a free-market economy; URL: http://www.foundation1.org) On Aug 16, 1:10 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Good one. The rich Jews of Wall Street finance the left, vote for the > left, throw fund-raising parties for the left (I used to work on Wall > Street before I retired and I know who many parties were thrown on Wall > Street at the Regent Hotel and then later that day at the Waldorf > Astoria by the rich leftist Jews of Wall Street, including the CEO of > the company I worked for - one of the biggest backers of the leftist > Dems). And yet according to you they cannot be left wing because they > are rich? You really must open a store and sell whatever it is you are > smoking. You too could be a rich atavistic left winger in no time at all. > > "Lone Wolf" wrote On 08/16/2009 12:17 PM: > > > > > The response is too ridiculous to take seriously. Soros, the parasitic > > Hedge fund speculator who made billions betting people would loose > > their homes and the AP left wing socialists? No doubt President Select > > Obama, who was financed by Wall St in the elections is a commie, a > > socialist as well. > > > If you trace back the genealogy of Obama's Wall St buddies, you will > > probably find that their grandaddies were amongst the rich Jews that > > apparently financed Trotsky and the Bolsheviks in the Russian > > revolution. > > > How people can be so desperately foolish as to accuse the most > > avaristic, venal capitalist parasites of being left wing is a > > reflection of the deep intractable crisis of US capitalism. It should > > be noted that the type of semi fascist extremism you espouse finds no > > resonation in the broad mass of the public who have no such illusions > > about these characters and what they represent. This type of extremism > > only finds expression in the media because of the fascistic layers > > that are emerging from the far right. > > > On Aug 14, 11:32 pm, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> And your option is to let Soros and company feed us the pablum of left > >> wing socialism with its poisonous base and we will thank them for it. > >> We already know that Soros and his pals support the writings of their > >> buddies at AP and in return AP sends out their propaganda. Given that > >> how can the best interests of the people themselves evolve. Are you > >> expecting the union thugs of SEIU and ACORN to give us that truth? > > >> "Lone Wolf" wrote: > > >>> Very sensible, niave and flawed. Genuine debate based on accurate > >>> information designed to produce the best outcomes is not possible in a > >>> society where the media and the government are dominated by finance > >>> capital that deliberately disseminate misinformation and distortions > >>> so as our children remain illiterate and our debates are puerile and > >>> childish. > > >>> Yes I am left wing, but I am more than happy to abide by any decision > >>> arrived at representing the will and best interests of the people > >>> themselves--this is never going to occur under the current > >>> enviornment. > > >>> The simple thing is, if people want consesus government, then they > >>> need a government that is responsible to the people, drawn from the > >>> ranks of the people. At the moment you have goverment of the > >>> corporation whose representitives are drawn from their ranks. This is > >>> not left wing radicalism--this is what we are confronted with. > > >>> On Aug 13, 3:38 am, Diogenes<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> If we would remover the histrionics and hysteria the radical right and > >>>> left are creating about health care in the US we maybe able to form a > >>>> coherent and workable plan. But, so much emotion and misinformation on > >>>> all sides is making rational discussion impossible. Wasting time and > >>>> disruption of meaningful discussion is the problem. Rather then > >>>> listening and then responding in a reasonable fashion is not what > >>>> sells newspapers or feeds the 24hr news cycle, so illiterate children > >>>> the American public squanders the resources of the country on puerile > >>>> comments ? The bigger question is no one is asking is who benefits > >>>> from this childish behavior. > > >>>> On Aug 12, 12:56 pm, Bruce Majors<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> The Rubes of EngagementWhy there's nothing "un-American" about the > >>>>> health > >>>>> care protests > > >>>>> David Harsanyi<http://www.reason.com/contrib/show/722.html> | August > >>>>> 12, > >>>>> 2009 > >>>>> They own the bully pulpit. They enjoy a mandate. They can move the > >>>>> votes. > >>>>> They dictate the debate. They write the legislation. They monopolize the > >>>>> coverage. > > >>>>> When it comes to politics, Democrats are U.S. Steel, Ma Bell, and > >>>>> Google all > >>>>> rolled into one. And yet because of a mystifying cosmic event, they are > >>>>> also > >>>>> victims. > > >>>>> In a recent editorial in *USA Today*, Democratic House Speaker Nancy > >>>>> Pelosi > >>>>> and sidekick Steny Hoyer grumbled about how reactionaries are shutting > >>>>> down > >>>>> the voices of the enlightenment on health care. They accused town hall > >>>>> insurrectionists of being "afraid not just of differing views—but of the > >>>>> facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American." > > >>>>> On one point, at least, Pelosi is correct: Many protesters are > >>>>> terrified of > >>>>> fact. Because the fact is every iteration of health care "reform" in > >>>>> Washington is intended to lead us to a single-payer system, which would > >>>>> not > >>>>> only wreck innovation and competition but also inject bean-counting > >>>>> bureaucrats into our health care decisions, from zygote to cremation. > > >>>>> But the notion that grass-roots opponents have the capacity—even by > >>>>> acting > >>>>> boorishly at a smattering of town hall meetings (rudeness, last anyone > >>>>> checked, still is protected by the First Amendment)—to "drown out" the > >>>>> voices of Washington is what our president might call silly. > > >>>>> Pelosi's party operates (in large margins) both houses of Congress, as > >>>>> well > >>>>> as the presidency. Elected fairly and squarely by the American people, > >>>>> no > >>>>> one can stop Democrats from passing any piece of legislation they > >>>>> desire, > >>>>> even if it controls and dispenses a good chunk of the American economy. > > >>>>> The Republican Party, as we all know, is as impotent as it is > >>>>> leaderless. > >>>>> Democrats could pass health care reform today without the benefit of a > >>>>> solitary GOP vote. Democrats certainly don't need the blessing of the > >>>>> mob of > >>>>> irate Brooks Brothers-wearing, un-American, swastika-toting agitators. > > >>>>> If the government-run health bill doesn't pass, it won't be the result > >>>>> of > >>>>> anyone's voice being quashed. In fact, I would be curious to meet the > >>>>> herculean life-form that has the capability to "drown out" either > >>>>> President > >>>>> Barack Obama or Pelosi. > > >>>>> No television, radio, or Web site is immune from the rhetorical > >>>>> maneuverings > >>>>> of our dear leader. Not even "American Idol" could stop Obama from > >>>>> appearing > >>>>> in five prime-time news conferences already. (George W. Bush had four > >>>>> his > >>>>> entire presidency. Don't get me wrong, though; that was best for > >>>>> everyone > >>>>> involved.) If we had any more Obama, he'd require his own station. Oh, > >>>>> wait. > >>>>> ... > > >>>>> Not long ago, ABC News aired a prime-time health care reform > >>>>> misinformercial > >>>>> directly from the White House. Not a single critic was allotted serious > >>>>> time > >>>>> to dispel this hourlong homage to munificent leadership. This, despite > >>>>> the > >>>>> fact that John Stossel, one of ABC News' most popular personalities > >>>>> (and one > >>>>> of the most effective opponents of government-run health care), was, I > >>>>> assume, available to question the president. > > >>>>> If Obama desired a vigorous debate, as he claims, he would debate > >>>>> vigorously. Instead, the president has launched snitch e-mails and a > >>>>> "reality check" section on the White House Web site, which allows the > >>>>> administration to conflate over-the-top accusations (e.g., "death > >>>>> panels"; > >>>>> the only thing being euthanized, of course, would be quality health > >>>>> care) > >>>>> with completely legitimate concerns (the "public option" and how it > >>>>> would > >>>>> displace tens of millions from their current doctors and insurance). > > >>>>> Now a "drowned-out" Pelosi has headed to the pages of the newspaper > >>>>> with the > >>>>> largest circulation in the nation to accuse the growing number of > >>>>> involved > >>>>> citizens who feel the health care agenda threatens their livelihoods > >>>>> and the > >>>>> country's future of acting "un-American." How's that for vigorous > >>>>> debate? > > >>>>> The problem for government-run health care proponents isn't that debate > >>>>> is > >>>>> being "drowned out" by fanatical mobs. Quite the opposite. Their > >>>>> problem is > >>>>> that too many people are finally listening. > > >>>>> *David Harsanyi is a columnist at *The Denver Post* and the author of > >>>>> *Nanny > >>>>> State*. Visit his Web site atwww.DavidHarsanyi.com.* > > >>>>> *COPYRIGHT 2009 THE DENVER POST > >>>>> DISTRIBUTED BY CREATORS.COM* > > >>>>> *Discuss this article > >>>>> online.<http://www.reason.com/blog/show/135372.html#comments> > >>>>> * > > >>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, "Lone Wolf"<[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> Thats right, lets pay taxes, while we work for bugger-all and expect > >>>>>> nothing in return--while the gamblers that made trillions losing > >>>>>> trillions are guaranteed $23 trillion dollars in public funds to > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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