Holly, I will take the time this weekend, to point out the flaws in both of your challenges. There will be a pop quiz afterwards.....
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > KIT, > > Nice rant. Now do you want to point out the lies in Luis's post ot > not? > > On Aug 20, 10:20 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Holly, > > > > As was the other post, in another thread regarding some wacked out > > Anti-American journalist bitching about the former presidential > > administration, wherein you challenged anyone to point to which > statements > > are inaccurate, the same applies to Moonbat Louis's wacked out post. > Any > > thinking American can see that the argument is based on half truths and > > emotional rhetoric, as well as some subliminal argument that somehow, we > all > > should know that socialized medicine run by the federal government, > (which > > has yet to run any program, or any "thing" well); is supposed to be a > good > > thing. > > > > Luis is a Moonbat. Another example of someone who is not real well > > informed, and doesn't understand how the principals and tenets that are > the > > foundation of this Nation are being undermined by the Marxists and > > socialists who are pushing this type of program. > > > > You, on the other hand, should know better. At your age, have you > looked > > into this proposed piece of socialist legislation, and how it will affect > > your health care?? > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Travis,, > > > > > Try to calm down and focus. Which of Luis's statements are you > > > claiming are lies? > > > > > On Aug 20, 4:21 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You want us to listen to the constant stream of unending lies from > the > > > > democrats instead? > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Wrong. I worked in an ER/Trauma Center that was in one of the most > > > > > Hispanic areas of Southern California. EVERYONE that presents > > > > > themselves to an ER gets "triaged" by a nurse and a doctor. That > > > > > means vital signs and a quick exam. If you are > > > > > deemed to have a non life threatening emergency (which constitute > > > > > around 94% of all ER cases) you can be sent away LEGALLY to a free > > > > > clinic or to a private doctor if you have no form of payment. > Being > > > > > "seen" is not the same as being "seen and treated". > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:29 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Your list is an obvious lie. YOU are obviously > a > > > > > > liar because today's laws do not allow for denial of health care > > > > > > especially if you are an " illegal alien immigrant " in an > emergency > > > > > > room situation though you may be denied payment for abusing the > > > system > > > > > > the hospitals have to treat you and fight for payment later. The > > > > > > government today covers "emergency room " costs for { illegal > alien > > > > > > immigrants } but not for U.S. citizens . Obama the biggest of all > > > > > > liars said today in his interview with a radio host that the bill > > > does > > > > > > not cover " illegal alien immigrants " but it will cover > emergency > > > > > > visits. So nothing has changed they will simply deluge our > E-rooms > > > and > > > > > > the bill will not allow hospitals to verify eligibility. So who > are > > > > > > the liar's ? You and B.O. -------- LUIZ ! ! ! > > > > > > ************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2:37 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From working in the ER for 20 years, I have seen just how > > > restrictive > > > > > > > and penny-pinching corporate healthcare is... > > > > > > > > > Your child has a horrible earache at 2 AM? The child is > screaming > > > in > > > > > > > agony so you drive to the local ER. The ER staff calls your > > > insurance > > > > > > > company/HMO for authorization only to be denied because it is > not a > > > > > > > "life-threatening emergency". What do they instruct the ER to > tell > > > > > > > the parents? Give the child some Tylenol and go to the walk-in > > > clinic > > > > > > > at 8:00 AM. > > > > > > > > > Vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night because of > food > > > > > > > poisoning? Go to the ER because you can't stop > vomiting...DENIED! > > > Go > > > > > > > to your primary physician when his office opens. > > > > > > > > > Your child has a high fever. You can't seem to bring it down. > > > Unless > > > > > > > the fever is over 101 when you arrive at the ER, you will be > > > DENIED! > > > > > > > Go to your pediatrician's office when it opens in the morning. > > > > > > > > > Get into a car accident and you need to be admitted to the > > > hospital? > > > > > > > You are 100 miles from your insurance/HMO's contracted > > > > > > > hospital...DENIED. Unless you are critical and unstable, you > are > > > put > > > > > > > into an ambulance and transferred to your contracted hospital. > > > Most > > > > > > > of the time, your contracted hospital is not a Trauma Center so > you > > > > > > > will get inexperienced and substandard care. > > > > > > > > > Gee, in any of these scenarios, if the patient would of had > > > government > > > > > > > insurance (Medi-Care or Medicaid), they would have been > APPROVED. > > > In > > > > > > > fact, the ER would not even be required to call first for > > > > > > > authorization. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Don't listen to people like Kama, OhioMark, Lew, LadyBug, and > Ms. > > > > > > > Con...they couldn't be more WRONG. They have no real world > > > > > > > experience. They are only sounding boards of the pundits. > Nearly > > > > > > > all nurses and doctors support the "public option" (as does the > > > > > > > American Medical Association). We have a perfect opportunity > to > > > > > > > reform healthcare and I have a feeling we are going to give in > to > > > the > > > > > > > Republicans and BLOW IT!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
