On Aug 21, 12:37 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Keith,
>
> I've already pointed out what was wrong with Luis's posts. I'm not
> sure why that wasn't sufficient for Hollywood but you might want to
> consider starting there.
>
> Frank,
Because Holly is " insufficiently" capable to understand
what you pointed out to him !
>
>
>
> > Holly,
>
> > I will take the time this weekend, to point out the flaws in both of your
> > challenges. There will be a pop quiz afterwards.....
>
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Hollywood
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > KIT,
>
> > > Nice rant. Now do you want to point out the lies in Luis's post ot
> > > not?
>
> > > On Aug 20, 10:20 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Holly,
>
> > > > As was the other post, in another thread regarding some wacked out
> > > > Anti-American journalist bitching about the former presidential
> > > > administration, wherein you challenged anyone to point to which
> > > statements
> > > > are inaccurate, the same applies to Moonbat Louis's wacked out post.
> > > Any
> > > > thinking American can see that the argument is based on half truths and
> > > > emotional rhetoric, as well as some subliminal argument that somehow, we
> > > all
> > > > should know that socialized medicine run by the federal government,
> > > (which
> > > > has yet to run any program, or any "thing" well); is supposed to be a
> > > good
> > > > thing.
>
> > > > Luis is a Moonbat. Another example of someone who is not real well
> > > > informed, and doesn't understand how the principals and tenets that are
> > > the
> > > > foundation of this Nation are being undermined by the Marxists and
> > > > socialists who are pushing this type of program.
>
> > > > You, on the other hand, should know better. At your age, have you
> > > looked
> > > > into this proposed piece of socialist legislation, and how it will
> > > > affect
> > > > your health care??
>
> > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]
> > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > Travis,,
>
> > > > > Try to calm down and focus. Which of Luis's statements are you
> > > > > claiming are lies?
>
> > > > > On Aug 20, 4:21 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > You want us to listen to the constant stream of unending lies from
> > > the
> > > > > > democrats instead?
>
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]
>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Wrong. I worked in an ER/Trauma Center that was in one of the
> > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > Hispanic areas of Southern California. EVERYONE that presents
> > > > > > > themselves to an ER gets "triaged" by a nurse and a doctor. That
> > > > > > > means vital signs and a quick exam. If you are
> > > > > > > deemed to have a non life threatening emergency (which constitute
> > > > > > > around 94% of all ER cases) you can be sent away LEGALLY to a free
> > > > > > > clinic or to a private doctor if you have no form of payment.
> > > Being
> > > > > > > "seen" is not the same as being "seen and treated".
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:29 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Your list is an obvious lie. YOU are obviously
> > > a
> > > > > > > > liar because today's laws do not allow for denial of health care
> > > > > > > > especially if you are an " illegal alien immigrant " in an
> > > emergency
> > > > > > > > room situation though you may be denied payment for abusing the
> > > > > system
> > > > > > > > the hospitals have to treat you and fight for payment later. The
> > > > > > > > government today covers "emergency room " costs for { illegal
> > > alien
> > > > > > > > immigrants } but not for U.S. citizens . Obama the biggest of
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > liars said today in his interview with a radio host that the
> > > > > > > > bill
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > > not cover " illegal alien immigrants " but it will cover
> > > emergency
> > > > > > > > visits. So nothing has changed they will simply deluge our
> > > E-rooms
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the bill will not allow hospitals to verify eligibility. So who
> > > are
> > > > > > > > the liar's ? You and B.O. -------- LUIZ ! ! !
>
> > > *************************************************************************************************************************
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2:37 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > From working in the ER for 20 years, I have seen just how
> > > > > restrictive
> > > > > > > > > and penny-pinching corporate healthcare is...
>
> > > > > > > > > Your child has a horrible earache at 2 AM? The child is
> > > screaming
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > agony so you drive to the local ER. The ER staff calls your
> > > > > insurance
> > > > > > > > > company/HMO for authorization only to be denied because it is
> > > not a
> > > > > > > > > "life-threatening emergency". What do they instruct the ER to
> > > tell
> > > > > > > > > the parents? Give the child some Tylenol and go to the
> > > > > > > > > walk-in
> > > > > clinic
> > > > > > > > > at 8:00 AM.
>
> > > > > > > > > Vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night because of
> > > food
> > > > > > > > > poisoning? Go to the ER because you can't stop
> > > vomiting...DENIED!
> > > > > Go
> > > > > > > > > to your primary physician when his office opens.
>
> > > > > > > > > Your child has a high fever. You can't seem to bring it down.
> > > > > Unless
> > > > > > > > > the fever is over 101 when you arrive at the ER, you will be
> > > > > DENIED!
> > > > > > > > > Go to your pediatrician's office when it opens in the morning.
>
> > > > > > > > > Get into a car accident and you need to be admitted to the
> > > > > hospital?
> > > > > > > > > You are 100 miles from your insurance/HMO's contracted
> > > > > > > > > hospital...DENIED. Unless you are critical and unstable, you
> > > are
> > > > > put
> > > > > > > > > into an ambulance and transferred to your contracted hospital.
> > > > > Most
> > > > > > > > > of the time, your contracted hospital is not a Trauma Center
> > > > > > > > > so
> > > you
> > > > > > > > > will get inexperienced and substandard care.
>
> > > > > > > > > Gee, in any of these scenarios, if the patient would of had
> > > > > government
> > > > > > > > > insurance (Medi-Care or Medicaid), they would have been
> > > APPROVED.
> > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > fact, the ER would not even be required to call first for
> > > > > > > > > authorization.
>
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>
> > > > > > > > > Don't listen to people like Kama, OhioMark, Lew, LadyBug, and
> > > Ms.
> > > > > > > > > Con...they couldn't be more WRONG. They have no real world
> > > > > > > > > experience. They are only sounding boards of the pundits.
> > > Nearly
> > > > > > > > > all nurses and doctors support the "public option" (as does
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > American Medical Association). We have a perfect opportunity
> > > to
> > > > > > > > > reform healthcare and I have a feeling we are going to give in
> > > to
> > > > > the
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