Plain,

You just don't get it. Which is more effective and certain, breaking
the sword or cutting off the arm of the man that is holding the sword?
A man with money and power can always buy another sword.

On Sep 8, 5:21 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> Did you not see the part where I said "obey LEGAL orders"? Go talk to
> the politicians who make murder legal and respectable. Go talking to
> the fucking politicians who have the authority and means to throw a
> soldier in a federal prison for NOT obeying an order THEY claim was/
> is
> legal.
> You're bitching at the weapon and not the hands that wield it
> ---
> until men in uniform stop obeying politicians the needless killing
> will continue
>
> it goes back to personal responsibility vs money and benefits
>
> On Sep 8, 3:39 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > plain,
>
> > Did you not see the part where I said "obey LEGAL orders"? Go talk to
> > the politicians who make murder legal and respectable. Go talking to
> > the fucking politicians who have the authority and means to throw a
> > soldier in a federal prison for NOT obeying an order THEY claim was/is
> > legal.
> > You're bitching at the weapon and not the hands that wield it
>
> > On Sep 8, 2:58 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > so, you just drink the kool-aid and do as your told
>
> > > as long as this mentality continues warfodder will be easy obtained
> > > and we will have to pay for their actions, health, education and
> > > mistakes
>
> > > great ...
>
> > > On Sep 8, 2:44 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > plain,
>
> > > > Actually numb-nuts, those who join the U.S. military are given their
> > > > pay and benefits for serving in the military and follwing the legal
> > > > orders of their commanders. If the civilian "leadership" that decides
> > > > who, where and why they fight.
>
> > > > On Sep 8, 1:34 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > We are not
> > > > > at war with the nation of Afghanistan
> > > > > ---
> > > > > yet those who agree to kill Afghans are promised cash money, benefits
> > > > > and a college education
>
> > > > > On Sep 8, 11:18 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > > > You moron. We were in a legally declared war with Germany. We are 
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > at war with the nation of Afghanistan. How stupid can you be in even
> > > > > > comparing the two situations?
>
> > > > > > On Sep 8, 10:56 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >On Monday, the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan said the U.S. 
> > > > > > > >>Army's 10th Mountain Division entered the charity's hospital 
> > > > > > > >without
> > > > > > > >permission to look for insurgents......
>
> > > > > > > ROTFLMAO!!!! SWEDISH?? Who gives a flying fuck what THEY say? 
> > > > > > > We're at
> > > > > > > war and we have to "ask permission" to enter the hospital looking 
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > the enemy??? LOL! Who knew? Hitler could have saved himself if 
> > > > > > > he'd
> > > > > > > only let the Allies know they didn't have "permission" to enter
> > > > > > > Berlin!
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 7, 2:56 pm, studio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Yep, we're just making friends left and right over there.
> > > > > > > > ---
>
> > > > > > > > Charity: US troops stormed through Afghan hospital
> > > > > > > > By KAY JOHNSON (AP) – 8 hours ago
>
> > > > > > > > KABUL — A Swedish charity accused American troops Monday of 
> > > > > > > > storming
> > > > > > > > through a hospital in central Afghanistan, breaking down doors 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > tying up staff in a search for militants. The U.S. military 
> > > > > > > > said it
> > > > > > > > was investigating.
>
> > > > > > > > Civilian deaths and intrusive searches have bred resentment 
> > > > > > > > among the
> > > > > > > > Afghan population nearly eight years after the U.S.-led 
> > > > > > > > coalition
> > > > > > > > invaded to oust the Taliban's hard-line Islamist regime for 
> > > > > > > > sheltering
> > > > > > > > al-Qaida terrorist leaders.
>
> > > > > > > > Foreign forces are working to persuade the population to 
> > > > > > > > support the
> > > > > > > > Afghan government after last month's presidential election, 
> > > > > > > > which has
> > > > > > > > yet to be decided amid allegations of vote-rigging.
>
> > > > > > > > On Monday, the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan said the U.S. 
> > > > > > > > Army's
> > > > > > > > 10th Mountain Division entered the charity's hospital without
> > > > > > > > permission to look for insurgents in Wardak province, southwest 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Kabul.
>
> > > > > > > > "This is simply not acceptable," said Anders Fange, the 
> > > > > > > > charity's
> > > > > > > > country director.
>
> > > > > > > > The U.S. troops came to the hospital looking for Taliban 
> > > > > > > > insurgents
> > > > > > > > late at night last Wednesday. Fange said they kicked in doors, 
> > > > > > > > tied up
> > > > > > > > four hospital employees and two family members of patients, and 
> > > > > > > > forced
> > > > > > > > patients out of beds during their search.
>
> > > > > > > > When they left two hours later, the unit ordered hospital staff 
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > inform coalition forces if any wounded militants were admitted, 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the military would decide if they could be treated, Fange said.
>
> > > > > > > > The staff refused, he said. "That would put our staff at risk 
> > > > > > > > and make
> > > > > > > > the hospital a target."
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hvWEqwq3CrRvaQCmt21...
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