Holly,
If you were a " rifleman " in the Marine Corp. Between
1968 & 1974 where else would you have had any war experience other
than Nam? You led me to believe you had some type of combat
experience. What gives ? Loas or Cambodia would have been Green Beret
or CIA operations with the Mong.
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On Sep 8, 11:29 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sage2,
>
> Please be so kind as to not presume to put words in my mouth. I said I
> served in the U.S.M.C. 1968-1974 and that my MOS was 0311. I did not
> state everywhere I was stationed and/or what my specific duties were.
>
> On Sep 8, 9:31 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Zeb,
>
> > Holly having been in Nam knows very well the reality of
> > collateral damage or loss! So persuing the enemy inside a hospital is
> > not an unusual incident.
>
> > *******************************************************************
>
> > On Sep 8, 9:26 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I wasn't comparing WWII to Afghanistan. I was making an over-the-top
> > > juxtaposition to illuminate how absurd it is to suggest that soldiers
> > > need "permission" to pursue the enemy in war.
>
> > > On Sep 8, 3:52 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > You lie. It was your post that contained the idiotic fucking comment,
> > > > and I quote; "Hitler could have saved himself if he's only let the
> > > > Allies know they needed "permission" to enter Berlin". End quote.
>
> > > > The fact that U.S. Congresses since 1950 have been too weak and
> > > > cowardly to declare war is not the issue. It does not change the legal
> > > > definition of "war" and/or the fact that we DID legally declare war on
> > > > Germany in 1941 and HAVE not declared war on the nation of AFGHANISTAN
> > > > and in fact consider that nation an ally.
>
> > > > On Sep 8, 11:26 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > You're the one comparing the two situations, dipshit. And in case you
> > > > > haven't noticed, we don't DECLARE wars anymore. We just go to it. We
> > > > > didn't declare war on Viet Nam or the Balkans or Grenada or Somalia or
> > > > > Iraq or Afghanistan. But its war nonetheless.
>
> > > > > On Sep 8, 12:18 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > > > You moron. We were in a legally declared war with Germany. We are
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > at war with the nation of Afghanistan. How stupid can you be in even
> > > > > > comparing the two situations?
>
> > > > > > On Sep 8, 10:56 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >On Monday, the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan said the U.S.
> > > > > > > >>Army's 10th Mountain Division entered the charity's hospital
> > > > > > > >without
> > > > > > > >permission to look for insurgents......
>
> > > > > > > ROTFLMAO!!!! SWEDISH?? Who gives a flying fuck what THEY say?
> > > > > > > We're at
> > > > > > > war and we have to "ask permission" to enter the hospital looking
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > the enemy??? LOL! Who knew? Hitler could have saved himself if
> > > > > > > he'd
> > > > > > > only let the Allies know they didn't have "permission" to enter
> > > > > > > Berlin!
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 7, 2:56 pm, studio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Yep, we're just making friends left and right over there.
> > > > > > > > ---
>
> > > > > > > > Charity: US troops stormed through Afghan hospital
> > > > > > > > By KAY JOHNSON (AP) – 8 hours ago
>
> > > > > > > > KABUL — A Swedish charity accused American troops Monday of
> > > > > > > > storming
> > > > > > > > through a hospital in central Afghanistan, breaking down doors
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > tying up staff in a search for militants. The U.S. military
> > > > > > > > said it
> > > > > > > > was investigating.
>
> > > > > > > > Civilian deaths and intrusive searches have bred resentment
> > > > > > > > among the
> > > > > > > > Afghan population nearly eight years after the U.S.-led
> > > > > > > > coalition
> > > > > > > > invaded to oust the Taliban's hard-line Islamist regime for
> > > > > > > > sheltering
> > > > > > > > al-Qaida terrorist leaders.
>
> > > > > > > > Foreign forces are working to persuade the population to
> > > > > > > > support the
> > > > > > > > Afghan government after last month's presidential election,
> > > > > > > > which has
> > > > > > > > yet to be decided amid allegations of vote-rigging.
>
> > > > > > > > On Monday, the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan said the U.S.
> > > > > > > > Army's
> > > > > > > > 10th Mountain Division entered the charity's hospital without
> > > > > > > > permission to look for insurgents in Wardak province, southwest
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Kabul.
>
> > > > > > > > "This is simply not acceptable," said Anders Fange, the
> > > > > > > > charity's
> > > > > > > > country director.
>
> > > > > > > > The U.S. troops came to the hospital looking for Taliban
> > > > > > > > insurgents
> > > > > > > > late at night last Wednesday. Fange said they kicked in doors,
> > > > > > > > tied up
> > > > > > > > four hospital employees and two family members of patients, and
> > > > > > > > forced
> > > > > > > > patients out of beds during their search.
>
> > > > > > > > When they left two hours later, the unit ordered hospital staff
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > inform coalition forces if any wounded militants were admitted,
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > the military would decide if they could be treated, Fange said.
>
> > > > > > > > The staff refused, he said. "That would put our staff at risk
> > > > > > > > and make
> > > > > > > > the hospital a target."
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hvWEqwq3CrRvaQCmt21...
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