And to think I checked this post hoping to find an intelligent discussion on a serious subject. I find some good points here, but the lack of intelligence, employment of expletives and the name calling are all too indicative of the all too common right wing mentality. This country, and this discussion group, need to focus on the facts, not unsubstantiated beliefs. And can't we be f%^**))^%g civil for a change?
On Sep 11, 9:43 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm beginning to believe you never saw any action in war. > > On Sep 8, 11:32 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Zeb, > > > You are, as usual, entirely missing the point. It's about > > accountability, right down from the political leadership to the grunt > > in the field. I'm about to give up on explaining things to you. > > > On Sep 8, 8:26 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I wasn't comparing WWII to Afghanistan. I was making an over-the-top > > > juxtaposition to illuminate how absurd it is to suggest that soldiers > > > need "permission" to pursue the enemy in war. > > > > On Sep 8, 3:52 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Zeb, > > > > > You lie. It was your post that contained the idiotic fucking comment, > > > > and I quote; "Hitler could have saved himself if he's only let the > > > > Allies know they needed "permission" to enter Berlin". End quote. > > > > > The fact that U.S. Congresses since 1950 have been too weak and > > > > cowardly to declare war is not the issue. It does not change the legal > > > > definition of "war" and/or the fact that we DID legally declare war on > > > > Germany in 1941 and HAVE not declared war on the nation of AFGHANISTAN > > > > and in fact consider that nation an ally. > > > > > On Sep 8, 11:26 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You're the one comparing the two situations, dipshit. And in case you > > > > > haven't noticed, we don't DECLARE wars anymore. We just go to it. We > > > > > didn't declare war on Viet Nam or the Balkans or Grenada or Somalia or > > > > > Iraq or Afghanistan. But its war nonetheless. > > > > > > On Sep 8, 12:18 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Zeb, > > > > > > > You moron. We were in a legally declared war with Germany. We are > > > > > > not > > > > > > at war with the nation of Afghanistan. How stupid can you be in even > > > > > > comparing the two situations? > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 10:56 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >On Monday, the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan said the U.S. > > > > > > > >>Army's 10th Mountain Division entered the charity's hospital > > > > > > > >without > > > > > > > >permission to look for insurgents...... > > > > > > > > ROTFLMAO!!!! SWEDISH?? Who gives a flying fuck what THEY say? > > > > > > > We're at > > > > > > > war and we have to "ask permission" to enter the hospital looking > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > the enemy??? LOL! Who knew? Hitler could have saved himself if > > > > > > > he'd > > > > > > > only let the Allies know they didn't have "permission" to enter > > > > > > > Berlin! > > > > > > > > On Sep 7, 2:56 pm, studio <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yep, we're just making friends left and right over there. > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > Charity: US troops stormed through Afghan hospital > > > > > > > > By KAY JOHNSON (AP) – 8 hours ago > > > > > > > > > KABUL — A Swedish charity accused American troops Monday of > > > > > > > > storming > > > > > > > > through a hospital in central Afghanistan, breaking down doors > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > tying up staff in a search for militants. The U.S. military > > > > > > > > said it > > > > > > > > was investigating. > > > > > > > > > Civilian deaths and intrusive searches have bred resentment > > > > > > > > among the > > > > > > > > Afghan population nearly eight years after the U.S.-led > > > > > > > > coalition > > > > > > > > invaded to oust the Taliban's hard-line Islamist regime for > > > > > > > > sheltering > > > > > > > > al-Qaida terrorist leaders. > > > > > > > > > Foreign forces are working to persuade the population to > > > > > > > > support the > > > > > > > > Afghan government after last month's presidential election, > > > > > > > > which has > > > > > > > > yet to be decided amid allegations of vote-rigging. > > > > > > > > > On Monday, the Swedish Committee for Afghanistan said the U.S. > > > > > > > > Army's > > > > > > > > 10th Mountain Division entered the charity's hospital without > > > > > > > > permission to look for insurgents in Wardak province, southwest > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Kabul. > > > > > > > > > "This is simply not acceptable," said Anders Fange, the > > > > > > > > charity's > > > > > > > > country director. > > > > > > > > > The U.S. troops came to the hospital looking for Taliban > > > > > > > > insurgents > > > > > > > > late at night last Wednesday. Fange said they kicked in doors, > > > > > > > > tied up > > > > > > > > four hospital employees and two family members of patients, and > > > > > > > > forced > > > > > > > > patients out of beds during their search. > > > > > > > > > When they left two hours later, the unit ordered hospital staff > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > inform coalition forces if any wounded militants were admitted, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the military would decide if they could be treated, Fange said. > > > > > > > > > The staff refused, he said. "That would put our staff at risk > > > > > > > > and make > > > > > > > > the hospital a target." > > > > > > > > >http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hvWEqwq3CrRvaQCmt21... > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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