He has to know the truth if
he is going to make policy.
---
I don't think the CIC should have the ability to make policy.

it's just one of many powers that should be taken away from the CIC

On Sep 29, 3:55 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> But he is responsible for the whole policy.  He has to know the truth if
> he is going to make policy.  He can't get it sugar coated.  He can sugar
> coat it to the country as Zero has been doing all along but he has to
> know the true story himself.  He can't decide what he does NOT want to
> hear.  If he is not going to make policy, which Zero has not done so
> far, then he should not be in that position in the first place.
>
>
>
> Hollywood wrote:
> > jgg,
>
> > And the Presidetn can let it be known what information he WANTS to
> > hear and what he does NOT want to here.
>
> > On Sep 29, 3:10 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> The very same can be applied to the daily briefings by the CIA...
> >> THE HIGHER UPS GET TO PICK WITH ITEMS TO CHOOSE TO SHOW THE
> >> PRESIDENT...    In this case, many condemned Bush and the higher up in
> >> "politicizing intel"...   Yet in this case, Hollywood prefers the same
> >> filtering mechanism applied to constantly changing facts on the
> >> ground...   This IMHO is just another example of convenient
> >> flipflaping of standards when you want to defend/condemn your
> >> political opponent...
>
> >> On Sep 29, 3:25 pm, LimboIndo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> It would apprear some people do not understand exactly what a chain-of-
> >>> command is. Be advised that information flows up the Chain-of-Command
> >>> just as orders flow down it. I would definately see a problem if Obama
> >>> had only talked to his Defense Secretary once, or if said Secretary
> >>> had only talked to Gen. McChrystal once in that period as well.
>
> >>> I am not saying that not being more "hands on" with this was/counter-
> >>> insurgency is a laudable goal, but I do not know why this is such a
> >>> negative thing in some people's minds. He is not General Obama, we did
> >>> not elect him to lead us in combat.
>
> >>> The link is old but the information has not 
> >>> changed,http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030325-chain-of-command01...
>
> >>> Joint Chiefs of Staff
> >>> The military's highest ranking officers, the Joint Chiefs advise the
> >>> National Security Council on strategy, passing on concerns or requests
> >>> from the ranks. Proposals go through non-military advisers to ensure
> >>> civilian control of the armed forces.
>
> >>> National Security Council
> >>> Advisers from military and civilian sectors then brief the president.
>
> >>> 1. Commander in Chief
> >>> Armed with the information, the president makes the cutive decision
>
> >>> 2. Secretary Of Defense
> >>> Informed of the decision, the defense secretary instructs Central
> >>> Command.
>
> >>> 3 U.S. Central Command
> >>> The head of Central Command, which covers all U.S. forces in the
> >>> region, refines the war strategy with commanders from four branches of
> >>> service.
>
> >>> 4 In the Field
> >>> Further down the chain, combat decisions are left to the commanders of
> >>> various troop and armor units. A look at the Army structure:
>
> >>> (All numbers are approximate.)
>
> >>> Numbered Army (i.e., 3rd U.S. Army)
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> General (Gen.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 70,000 soldiers.
> >>> Army combines 2 or more corps.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Corps
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Lieutenant General (Lt. Gen.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 20,000-45,000 soldiers. Corps has 2-5 divisions.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Division
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Major General (Maj. Gen.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 10,000-15,000 soldiers.
> >>> Division has about 3 brigades.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Brigade
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Brigadier General (Brig. Gen.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 3,000-5,000 soldiers.
> >>> Brigade has 2-4 regiments.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Regiment
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Colonel (Col.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 600-4,000 soldiers.
> >>> Regiment has 2-4 battalions.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Battalion
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Lieutenant Colonel (Lt. Col.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 300-1,000 soldiers.
> >>> Battalion has 4-5 companies.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Company
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Captain (Capt.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 62-190 soldiers.
> >>> Company has 3-5 platoons.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Platoon
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Lieutenant (Lt.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 16-44 soldiers.
> >>> Platoon has 2-4 squads.
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Squad
> >>> COMMADER
> >>> Sergeant (Sgt.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 9-10 soldiers. Squad has 3 teams
>
> >>> UNIT
> >>> Team
> >>> COMMANDER
> >>> Corporal (Cpl.)
> >>> SIZE
> >>> 3 soldiers
>
> >>> Command structure
>
> >>> The U.S. military is divided into nine Unified Combatant Commands.
> >>> Four are devoted to operational management and five assume
> >>> responsibility for specific areas of the globe. The Middle East and
> >>> the Horn of Africa, including Iraq, are covered under the U.S. Central
> >>> Command which would harmonize forces in the region for a strike.
>
> >>> On Sep 28, 5:06 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> in 70 days...   So much for giving the commander a direct uncensored
> >>>> access to the President...   Seems to me, a leader would want to
> >>>> direct communication with such a key commander in Afghanistan...
>
> >>>>http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/back-story/2009/sep/28/us-comm...
>
> >>>>>>> "I’ve talked to the president, since I’ve been here, once on a VTC 
> >>>>>>> [video teleconference]," Gen. Stanley McChrystal told CBS reporter 
> >>>>>>> David Martin in a television interview that aired Sunday.
>
> >>>> "You’ve talked to him once in 70 days?" Mr. Martin followed up.
>
> >>>> "That is correct," the general replied.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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