Zeb,

Because Zeb will keep this up forever if you let him. If you or I
were to post the site he would simply claim it was "false", that's why
I wanted him to look it up himself.

On Oct 12, 9:28 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
> What makes me think that?  The nobelprize.org website.
>
> And I quote;
>
> Nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize: Every year, the Norwegian Nobel
> Committee sends out thousands of letters inviting qualified people to
> submit their nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The names of the
> nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be
> revealed until 50 years later.
>
> As to why they want them concealed -- I have no idea. You'll need to
> take that up with them.
>
> So when you told Hollywood they were all listed at "the Nobel web
> site", which site were you referring to?
>
> Hollywood,
>
> You and I must have different definitions of what "back and forth
> discussion" is. I asked Zeb a simple, single question. I'd still like
> to know who was on that list he was referring to.
>
> On Oct 12, 4:58 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >As far as I know, their identities are supposed to remain
>
> > concealed for 50 years,
>
> > What makes you think that? And why in the world would they want the
> > names of nominees concealed?
>
> > On Oct 12, 12:18 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Zeb,
>
> > > Can you please provide a link to any site that lists the 2009
> > > nominees?  As far as I know, their identities are supposed to remain
> > > concealed for 50 years, so am interested in knowing how you got the
> > > names and their qualifications.
>
> > > I agree that there has to be someone who has actually done something
> > > to promote peace in the world and is more qualified than Obama, but
> > > unless you can name names and qualifications it's difficult to get
> > > beyond conceptual disagreement.
>
> > > On Oct 11, 11:38 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >Who else was nominated and why do you think they were more worthy
>
> > > > Go to the Nobel web site, lazy ass. They're all listed there. Why
> > > > they're more qualified should be obvious, even to you.
>
> > > > On Oct 9, 6:31 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > > Who else was nominated and why do you think they were more worthy of
> > > > > the award? But, then again, it really doesnt matter as you are not on
> > > > > the committee. Tough break.
>
> > > > > On Oct 9, 1:21 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > All of the reasons you cited are horse shit. The Nobel Committee
> > > > > > nominated Obama for this prize 10 days after his inauguration when 
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > had done even less than he has done to date. In fact he had done
> > > > > > NOTHING at that point. This prize is an embarrassment because it was
> > > > > > given by a bunch of hysterical Bush hating libroids in Norway to the
> > > > > > detriment of all those who were nominated and truly deserving. It is
> > > > > > sad to see people entrusted with with the prestige of the Nobel
> > > > > > destroying its credibility for their own political obsessions.
>
> > > > > > On Oct 9, 11:22 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > frankg,
>
> > > > > > > It's a simple matter of personal opinion as to whether or not 
> > > > > > > money/
> > > > > > > time was wasted in the President's attempt to help the U.S. get 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Olympics. I made no reference to people that expressed a 
> > > > > > > difference of
> > > > > > > opinion in a sane manner. I mentioned only the nut-jobs. Any 
> > > > > > > "slap on
> > > > > > > the face" of the U.S was removed by the honor of a Noble Prize to 
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > sitting U.S. President.
>
> > > > > > > The AP article made the reasons for the award quite clear.
> > > > > > > 1. The Presidents initiatives to reduce nuclear weapons.
> > > > > > > 2. His efforts to ease dangerous tensions with the Muslim world.
> > > > > > > 3. His stress of diplomacy & cooperation rather than unilateralism
> > > > > > > 4. He's been in office 9 months and has managed not to start a 
> > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > war (OK, I added that one myself).
>
> > > > > > > Actually I personally do not consider his award as significant as
> > > > > > > Jimmy Carter's. After all the peace accord he brokered between 
> > > > > > > Egypt
> > > > > > > and Israel is STILL holding. Still, to be dismissive of the AWARD
> > > > > > > itself just because it was awarded to someone you don't like is 
> > > > > > > silly.
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 9, 9:52 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hollywood,
>
> > > > > > > > I'm not following the point you're trying to make.
>
> > > > > > > > A week ago people were complaining that Obama was wasting 
> > > > > > > > time/money
> > > > > > > > traveling to Denmark to make a push for the Olympics. They also 
> > > > > > > > felt
> > > > > > > > that it was an even greater slap in the face of Chicago/US that 
> > > > > > > > Obama
> > > > > > > > would make a personal plea and then get cut so early in the 
> > > > > > > > voting. So
> > > > > > > > people questioned his motive, the waste of time & money, and the
> > > > > > > > impact his being snubbed would have on him and the US.
>
> > > > > > > > How does this in any way relate to people now objecting that 
> > > > > > > > Obama be
> > > > > > > > awarded a Nobel Peace Prize (a prize, btw, that is typically 
> > > > > > > > awarded
> > > > > > > > to people who have actually achieved something) when he's not 
> > > > > > > > yet
> > > > > > > > accomplished a thing?
>
> > > > > > > > I just don't get the connection between the two events...
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 10:23 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > > > > > > Wait a minute there lad. Less than a week ago the world was
> > > > > > > > > practically coming to an end because the U.S. did not get the 
> > > > > > > > > Olympics
> > > > > > > > > and it was all the "fault" of President Obama.
> > > > > > > > > Didn't you read the comments here? The WORLD was using the 
> > > > > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > as "a urinal", it was damaging to OUR prestige, one dumbass 
> > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > suggested it just might be the "last straw" of indignities 
> > > > > > > > > heaped upon
> > > > > > > > > our nation and their might be a military coup because of it.
>
> > > > > > > > > BUT NOW the freakin' NOBEL PEACE PRIZE is trivial & 
> > > > > > > > > unimportant?????
> > > > > > > > > WTF? LMFAO!!
>
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 8:43 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Noting that the 4-H Club Blue Ribbon has really gained no 
> > > > > > > > > > additional
> > > > > > > > > > luster over the decades, the International Committee on 
> > > > > > > > > > Prize Prestige
> > > > > > > > > > added that it has lost no luster either. The flagging 
> > > > > > > > > > Nobel, on the
> > > > > > > > > > other hand, began a steep descent when an apparently 
> > > > > > > > > > hysterical
> > > > > > > > > > committee awarded the Peace Nobel to an unrepentant 
> > > > > > > > > > terrorist and an
> > > > > > > > > > ineffectual ex-President Peanut decades ago. Subsequently, 
> > > > > > > > > > Nobel
> > > > > > > > > > "Peace" prizes have been awarded to people for making 
> > > > > > > > > > inaccurate
> > > > > > > > > > movies about the weather and now for being a man with black 
> > > > > > > > > > skin.
> > > > > > > > > > Representatives from the 4-H Club, nonetheless, are 
> > > > > > > > > > celebrating their
> > > > > > > > > > assent in prestige and are said to be considering a Blue 
> > > > > > > > > > Ribbon for
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