Hollywood, Thanks for the clarification.
As for the award itself; 1- Presidents Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 all had goals and programs to reduce nuclear weapons. Obama continues that trend. Good thing, but not unique or worthy of an award. 2- His efforts to ease tensions has mostly been appeasement of the Muslim world via conciliatory comments which find fault with the prior actions of the US and Israel. I consider this extremely dangerous, not ground breaking or worthy of an award. 3- I agree with stressing diplomacy and cooperation – it truly is the only way to succeed. However, expressing desire for and actually accomplishing it are two different things. 4- Yeah, but he’s still carrying on those that he inherited. I don’t blame him and I think he has to, but that is the reality of the situation. I’m dismissive of the award not because I don’t like Obama (which is untrue, I do like him) but because I don’t believe he has earned it through accomplishment. There are many, many people who share his views on reduction of nuclear weapons, peace thru diplomacy, cleaning up the environment, restoring health and prosperity to our country, etc., etc. But as President you have to face the harsh realities of how the world functions vs. utopian ideals. He’s been given this award for having utopian ideals, nothing more (yet). On Oct 9, 11:22 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > frankg, > > It's a simple matter of personal opinion as to whether or not money/ > time was wasted in the President's attempt to help the U.S. get the > Olympics. I made no reference to people that expressed a difference of > opinion in a sane manner. I mentioned only the nut-jobs. Any "slap on > the face" of the U.S was removed by the honor of a Noble Prize to a > sitting U.S. President. > > The AP article made the reasons for the award quite clear. > 1. The Presidents initiatives to reduce nuclear weapons. > 2. His efforts to ease dangerous tensions with the Muslim world. > 3. His stress of diplomacy & cooperation rather than unilateralism > 4. He's been in office 9 months and has managed not to start a single > war (OK, I added that one myself). > > Actually I personally do not consider his award as significant as > Jimmy Carter's. After all the peace accord he brokered between Egypt > and Israel is STILL holding. Still, to be dismissive of the AWARD > itself just because it was awarded to someone you don't like is silly. > > On Oct 9, 9:52 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hollywood, > > > I'm not following the point you're trying to make. > > > A week ago people were complaining that Obama was wasting time/money > > traveling to Denmark to make a push for the Olympics. They also felt > > that it was an even greater slap in the face of Chicago/US that Obama > > would make a personal plea and then get cut so early in the voting. So > > people questioned his motive, the waste of time & money, and the > > impact his being snubbed would have on him and the US. > > > How does this in any way relate to people now objecting that Obama be > > awarded a Nobel Peace Prize (a prize, btw, that is typically awarded > > to people who have actually achieved something) when he's not yet > > accomplished a thing? > > > I just don't get the connection between the two events... > > > On Oct 9, 10:23 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Zeb, > > > > Wait a minute there lad. Less than a week ago the world was > > > practically coming to an end because the U.S. did not get the Olympics > > > and it was all the "fault" of President Obama. > > > Didn't you read the comments here? The WORLD was using the President > > > as "a urinal", it was damaging to OUR prestige, one dumbass even > > > suggested it just might be the "last straw" of indignities heaped upon > > > our nation and their might be a military coup because of it. > > > > BUT NOW the freakin' NOBEL PEACE PRIZE is trivial & unimportant????? > > > WTF? LMFAO!! > > > > On Oct 9, 8:43 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Noting that the 4-H Club Blue Ribbon has really gained no additional > > > > luster over the decades, the International Committee on Prize Prestige > > > > added that it has lost no luster either. The flagging Nobel, on the > > > > other hand, began a steep descent when an apparently hysterical > > > > committee awarded the Peace Nobel to an unrepentant terrorist and an > > > > ineffectual ex-President Peanut decades ago. Subsequently, Nobel > > > > "Peace" prizes have been awarded to people for making inaccurate > > > > movies about the weather and now for being a man with black skin. > > > > Representatives from the 4-H Club, nonetheless, are celebrating their > > > > assent in prestige and are said to be considering a Blue Ribbon for > > > > "Peace" themselves.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
