Your talking points so often are meant to change the subject... So excuse me while I "don't give a rat's ass"
On Oct 12, 3:44 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > jgg, > > Dude, I don't give a rat's ass what you claim were/are someone's > "talking points" at a given point in time. I'm talking about YOUR > statements on THIS thread THIS week. Someone is critical of the Bush > administration and you start babbling about Salem's witch trials over > 300 years ago, WWII and the Marshall Plan and other things that George > Bush had about as much to do with as my fucking cat. As if to > criticize Bush equates with diminishing those stated accomplishments > of Am,erica. I mean WTF? > > On Oct 12, 1:23 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What a short memory yoy got grandma > > > >>> To be critical of George Bush's administration is to be critical of > > >>> America? > > > That was the Left's talking point for awhile AS YOU KNOW VERY WELL... > > > >>> What did Bush have to do with any of the admirable American > > > accomplishments you list? I had about as much to do with the Marshall > > Plan to re-build Europe after WWII, or the development of the > > Internet, as George Bush did. > > > >>> Oh, the danger from AQ is NOW passed? <<<Unlike Chamberlain Obama has > > > entered the stage AFTER the danger was confronted and averted>>>> Did > > you REALLY say that? AQ is suddenly the ONLY dangerous Islamic > > militant organization? The ONLY threat to our security and the > > world's? > > > I see you have just learn what I was saying to you for years... But > > yes, now Islamic nations are confronting milant Islam because they > > threaten them... When Bush did it, the same said governments just > > winked at their activities... A very different and far more > > dangerous situations which you refuse to acknowledge... > > As I pointed to confronting AQ before others did just how does the > > Marshall Plan come into play??? I know, you claim I said that and > > then mock me for what you said I said... Sounds like straw-man > > mockery to me.. > > > On Oct 10, 11:12 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > jgg, > > > > What did Bush have to do with any of the admirable American > > > accomplishments you list? I had about as much to do with the Marshall > > > Plan to re-build Europe after WWII, or the development of the > > > Internet, as George Bush did. To be critical of George Bush's > > > administration is to be critical of America? And you folks want to > > > call President Obama arrogant???? Are you listening to yourself? > > > > Oh, the danger from AQ is NOW passed? <<<Unlike Chamberlain Obama has > > > entered the stage AFTER the danger was confronted and averted>>>> Did > > > you REALLY say that? AQ is suddenly the ONLY dangerous Islamic > > > militant organization? The ONLY threat to our security and the > > > world's? > > > > On Oct 10, 9:49 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It says so much of the emptiness of the Left for ideas... And the > > > > inability of so many to get over their irrational hatred of Bush -- so > > > > irrational that they are unable to accept contrary facts as facts... > > > > But this, like the passion to put on trail witches in Salem in in 1692 > > > > will pass and be seen in history as just anothe r mass phobia and > > > > madness... > > > > > Bush, like Obama are flip sides of each other, both have good and bad > > > > aspects... They reflect America, who once again addresses difficult > > > > world problems (many time ones which few wish to address), ask for > > > > little, and then remember American Idealism... Bush saw the nature > > > > of AQ's challenge, and confronted it -- this time BEFORE the evil > > > > became obvious to Europe... Obama, is acting like Wilson, full of > > > > idealism which will be rejected be the cold realities of geo-politics > > > > of other countries interests and lust for power... Unlike > > > > Chamberlain, Obama has entered the stage AFTER the danger was > > > > confronted and averted... > > > > > As Peggy Noonan writes > > > > > >>> How to redeem this? That is a hard question, but here is one idea. > > > > >>> The president will deliver a big speech in Oslo Dec. 10: white tie > > > > >>> and tails, a formal, bound statement. The world, as they say, will > > > > >>> be watching. He should deflect the limelight. (Can he?) He should > > > > >>> make his subject bigger than himself. (Is there a subject bigger > > > > >>> than himself?) He has been accused of traveling through the world > > > > >>> on an extended apology tour. That isn't fair, but the tag is there. > > > > >>> How about an unapologetic address, a speech, with the world's > > > > >>> elites leaning forward and listening, about the meaning of America? > > > > >>> A speech that shows a grounded and sophisticated love for his > > > > >>> country and its great traditions and history. Not a nationalistic > > > > >>> speech, not a prideful one, but a loving one. > > > > > For instance: The Peace Prize judges won't see it this way, but > > > > America has gone to Europe twice in the past century to fight for > > > > peace. This is an old concept, and has to do with killing killers so > > > > they can't kill anymore. It cost America a lot to do this, and we kept > > > > no territory, as they say, beyond the graves where our soldiers lie. > > > > America then taxed itself and gave its wealth not only to its allies > > > > but to its former adversaries, to help them rebuild. We didn't > > > > actually have to do this. We did it to make the world better. We did > > > > it to foster peace. (They should give us a prize.) > > > > > America hasn't just helped the world, it literally lit the world with > > > > its inventions, which are the product of its freedoms. The lights > > > > under which the Peace Prize judges read, and rejected, the worthy > > > > nominations? Why, those lights were invented by an American. The > > > > emails the committee members sent to each other, sharing their banal > > > > insights on leadership? They came through the Internet. Who invented > > > > the Internet? It was a Norwegian bureaucrat with a long face and hair > > > > on his nose and little plastic geometric eyeglasses? Oh wait, it was > > > > Americans. The members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee are healthy > > > > because they have been inoculated against diseases such as polio. Who > > > > invented the polio vaccine, an enfeebled old leftist academic in Oslo? > > > > Nah, it was a man named Jonas Salk. He was an American. > > > > > Europe's elites experience Mr. Obama as a historical accident that > > > > needs and deserves their encouragement. Actually he was elected with > > > > 69.5 million votes, and you know, they were cast by Americans. Go > > > > figure. > > > > > Mr. Obama should get the spotlight off himself and put it on the great > > > > thing that yielded him up and made him possible. America is > > > > misunderstood these days, and he could perform a public service by > > > > helping people understand it better. > > > > > Love, after all, never harms the world, and as an added practical > > > > bonus such a speech would obscurely embarrass the committee, which > > > > won't be able to criticize the thoughts of its hero. That would be > > > > pleasurable for Americans, and therefore helpful to Mr. Obama. > > > > > This might to some degree redeem this wicked and ignorant award, this > > > > mischievous honor. > > > > > On Oct 9, 6:37 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > jgg, > > > > > > Hmmmmm, so about the only requirement to be considered a man of peace > > > > > is to NOT be Geroge Bush? Sure dosent say much for the administration > > > > > of George Bush, does it? > > > > > > On Oct 9, 11:45 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Our Egyptian man on the street nailed it > > > > > > > ""They are handing him the Nobel Peace Prize because he isn’t George > > > > > > Bush." > > > > > > > By that standard, you are eligible for the Nobel Peace Prize.... > > > > > > >http://jaltcoh.blogspot.com/2009/10/only-possible-explanation-why-pre... > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 11:25 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > frankg, > > > > > > > > It's really rather simple. .Compared to the man he replaced Obama > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > win a Nobel Peace Prize simply by going 9 whole months w/o > > > > > > > invading > > > > > > > someone. > > > > > > > Kinda like a 300 lb. man appearing to be skinny by standing next > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > 600 llb. man. > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 9:46 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The continuation of the 'smoke and mirrors' presidency > > > > > > > > continues. The > > > > > > > > height of his mantle continues to get elevated without his ever > > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > > anything. Just amazing. > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 7:53 am, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Headline of the day: > > > > > > > > > > London Times: "Absurd decision on Obama makes a mockery of > > > > > > > > > the Nobel > > > > > > > > > peace prize" > > > > > > > > > > [Q] - Rarely has an award had such an obvious political and > > > > > > > > > partisan > > > > > > > > > intent. It was clearly seen by the Norwegian Nobel committee > > > > > > > > > as a way > > > > > > > > > of expressing European gratitude for an end to the Bush > > > > > > > > > Administration, approval for the election of America’s first > > > > > > > > > black > > > > > > > > > president and hope that Washington will honour its promise to > > > > > > > > > re- > > > > > > > > > engage with the world... > > > > > > > > > > The pretext for the prize was Mr Obama’s decision to > > > > > > > > > “strengthen > > > > > > > > > international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”. > > > > > > > > > Many people > > > > > > > > > will point out that, while the President has indeed promised > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > “reset” relations with Russia and offer a fresh start to > > > > > > > > > relations > > > > > > > > > with the Muslim world, there is little so far to show for his > > > > > > > > > fine > > > > > > > > > words. > > > > > > > > > --http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article68... > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 7:27 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What's left? 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