I accept that its legal but is it constitutional? -- no - imo I thought a students personal information was condifential and couldnt be released without the permission of the parent/guardian?! --- not since NCLB
On Nov 2, 7:03 pm, Malclom Little <[email protected]> wrote: > I accept that its legal but is it constitutional? I thought a students > personal information was condifential and couldnt be released without the > permission of the parent/guardian?! > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:50 AM, plainolamerican > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > it allows the military to ILLEGALLY acquire our young ones Identity? > > --- > > no, it's legal > > > the good news - you can opt your children out, but you have to find > > and fill out the form and present it to your school. Pray that the > > principle/staff/teacher who collects and manages the files is not a > > proud pro-military supporter. > > > otoh - it's hard to prevent the school from sending your child to an > > auditorium to listen to recruiters > > you can, however, instruct your child not to attend. Again, hope that > > your child's teacher is not a proud pro-military supporter. > > > On Nov 1, 9:51 pm, Malclom Little <[email protected]> wrote: > > > This is yet another reason why the No Child Left Behind Act is complete > > and > > > total Bulls$%t!!!! It requires students to take standardized test that > > > colleges dont really look at. Teachers are subsequently compelled to > > teach > > > to test and only cover what the test will cover. And to make matters > > worst > > > it allows the military to ILLEGALLY acquire our young ones Identity? I > > love > > > this country to death but this is ridiculous!!!!!... > > > > read more » > > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, M. Johnson <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > *A Few Good Kids? > > > > **How Iow the No Child Left Behind Act allowed military recruiters to > > > > collect info on millions of unsuspecting teens > > > > *by David Goodman > > > > > September/October 2009 Issue <http://www.motherjones.com/toc/2009/09> > > > > > *John Travers* was striding purposefully into the Westfield mall in > > > > Wheaton, Maryland, for some back-to-school shopping before starting his > > > > junior year at Bowling Green State University. When I asked him whether > > he'd > > > > ever talked to a military recruiter, Travers, a 19-year-old African > > American > > > > with a buzz cut, a crisp white T-shirt, and a diamond stud in his left > > ear, > > > > smiled wryly. "To get to lunch in my high school, you had to pass > > > > recruiters," he said. "It was overwhelming." Then he added, "I thought > > the > > > > recruiters had too much information about me. They called me, but I > > never > > > > gave them my phone number." > > > > > Nor did he give the recruiters his email address, Social Security< > >http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/05/security-blanket-how-soci...>number, > > or details about his ethnicity, shopping habits, or college plans. > > > > Yet they probably knew all that, too. In the past few years, the > > military > > > > has mounted a virtual invasion into the lives of young Americans. Using > > data > > > > mining, stealth websites, career tests, and sophisticated marketing > > > > software, the Pentagon is harvesting and analyzing information on > > everything > > > > from high school students' GPAs and SAT scores to which video games > > they > > > > play. Before an Army recruiter even picks up the phone to call a > > prospect > > > > like Travers, the soldier may know more about the kid's habits than do > > his > > > > own parents. > > > > > The military has long struggled to find more effective ways to reach > > > > potential enlistees; for every new GI it signed up last year, the Army > > spent > > > > $24,500 on recruitment. (In contrast, four-year colleges spend an > > average of > > > > $2,000 per incoming student.) Recruiters hit pay dirt in 2002, when > > > > then-Rep. (now Sen.) David Vitter< > >http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2007/07/senator-david-vitter-hurrican...>(R-La.) > > slipped a provision into the No > > > > Child Left Behind Act< > >http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2002/11/no-child-unrecruited>that > > requires high schools to give recruiters the names and contact details > > > > of all juniors and seniors. Schools that fail to comply risk losing > > their > > > > NCLB funding. This little-known regulation effectively transformed > > President > > > > George W. Bush's signature education bill into the most aggressive > > military > > > > recruitment tool since the draft. Students may sign an opt-out formbut > > not > > > > all school districts let them know about it. > > > > > Yet NCLB is just the tip of the data iceberg. In 2005, privacy > > advocates > > > > discovered that the Pentagon had spent the past two years quietly > > amassing > > > > records from Selective Service, state DMVs, and data brokers to create > > a > > > > database of tens of millions of young adults and teens, some as young > > as 15. > > > > The massive data-mining project is overseen by the Joint Advertising > > Market > > > > Research & Studies program, whose website <http://www.jamrs.org/> has > > > > described the database, which now holds 34 million names, as "arguably > > the > > > > largest repository of 16-25-year-old youth data in the country." The > > JAMRS > > > > database is in turn run by Equifax, the credit reporting giant. > > > > > Marc Rotenberg, head of the Electronic Privacy Information Center< > >http://epic.org/>, > > > > says the Pentagon's initial failure to disclose the collection of the > > > > information likely violated the Privacy Act< > >http://www.hhs.gov/foia/privacy/index.html>. > > > > In 2007, the Pentagon settled a lawsuit (filed by the New York Civil > > > > Liberties Union) by agreeing to stop collecting the names and Social > > > > Security numbers of anyone younger than 17 and promising not to share > > its > > > > database records with other government agencies. Students may opt out > > of > > > > having their JAMRS database information sent to recruiters, but only > > 8,700 > > > > have invoked this obscure safeguard. > > > > > The Pentagon also spends about $600,000 a year on commercial data > > brokers, > > > > notably the Student Marketing Group and the American Student List, > > which > > > > boasts that it has records for 8 million high school students. Both > > > > companies have been accused of using deceptive practices to gather > > > > information: In 2002, New York's attorney general sued SMG for telling > > high > > > > schools it was surveying students for scholarship and financial aid > > > > opportunities yet selling the info to telemarketers; the Federal Trade > > > > Commission charged ASL with similar tactics. Both companies eventually > > > > settled. > > > > > The Pentagon is also gathering data from unsuspecting Web surfers. This > > > > year, the Army spent $1.2 million on the website March2Success.com< > >https://www.march2success.com/index.cfm>, > > > > which provides free standardized test-taking tips devised by prep > > firms<http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1998/11/those-who-cant-test>such > > as Peterson's, Kaplan, and Princeton Review. The only indications that > > > > the Army runs the site, which registers an average of 17,000 new users > > each > > > > month, are a tiny tagline and a small logo that links to the main > > > > recruitment website, GoArmy.com. Yet visitors' contact information can > > be > > > > sent to recruiters unless they opt out, and students also have the > > option of > > > > having a recruiter monitor their practice test scores. Terry Backstrom, > > who > > > > runs March2Success.com for the US Army Recruiting Command at Fort Knox, > > > > insists that it is about "good will," not recruiting. "We are providing > > a > > > > great service to schools that normally would cost them." > > > > > Recruiters are also data mining the classroom. More than 12,000 high > > > > schools administer the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery, a > > > > three-hour multiple-choice test originally created in 1968 to match > > > > conscripts with military assignments. Rebranded in the mid-1990s as the > > > > "ASVAB Career Exploration Program," the test has a cheerful home page > > that > > > > makes no reference to its military applications, instead declaring that > > it > > > > "is designed to help students learn more about themselves and the world > > of > > > > work." A student who takes the test is asked to divulge his or her > > Social > > > > Security number, GPA, ethnicity, and career interestsall of which is > > then > > > > logged into the JAMRS database. In 2008, more than 641,000 high school > > > > students took the ASVAB; 90 percent had their scores sent to > > recruiters. > > > > Tony Castillo of the Army's Houston Recruiting Battalion says that > > ASVAB is > > > > "much more than a test to join the military. It is really a gift to > > public > > > > education." > > > > > Concerns about the ASVAB's links to recruiting have led to a nearly 20 > > > > percent decline in the number of test takers between 2003 and 2008. But > > the > > > > test is mandatory at approximately 1,000 high schools. Last February, > > three > > > > North Carolina students were sent to detention for refusing to take it. > > One, > > > > a junior named Dakota Ling, told the local paper, "I just really don't > > want > > > > the military to have all the info it can on me." Last year, the > > California > > > > Legislature barred schools from sending ASVAB results to military > > > > recruiters, though Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill. The Los > > > > Angeles and Washington, DC, school districts have tried to protect > > students' > > > > information by releasing their scores only on request. > > > > > To put all its data to use, the military has enlisted the help of > > Nielsen > > > > Claritas, a research and marketing firm whose clients include BMW, AOL, > > and > > > > Starbucks. Last year, it rolled out a "custom segmentation" program > > that > > > > allows a recruiter armed with the address, age, race, and gender of a > > > > potential "lead" to call up a wealth of information about young people > > in > > > > the immediate area, including recreation and consumption patterns. The > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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