don't be afraid to take your child off the list remember - they'll do whatever it takes to induce your child into serving in the military that includes cash money, benefits, and claims of honor and future employment
let your child decide for him/herself when he/she has the mental capacity to understand the consequences On Nov 3, 12:18 am, Malclom Little <[email protected]> wrote: > That is just disturbing > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:41 PM, plainolamerican > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > I accept that its legal but is it constitutional? > > -- > > no - imo > > > I thought a students > > personal information was condifential and couldnt be released without > > the > > permission of the parent/guardian?! > > --- > > not since NCLB > > > On Nov 2, 7:03 pm, Malclom Little <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I accept that its legal but is it constitutional? I thought a students > > > personal information was condifential and couldnt be released without the > > > permission of the parent/guardian?! > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:50 AM, plainolamerican > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > it allows the military to ILLEGALLY acquire our young ones Identity? > > > > --- > > > > no, it's legal > > > > > the good news - you can opt your children out, but you have to find > > > > and fill out the form and present it to your school. Pray that the > > > > principle/staff/teacher who collects and manages the files is not a > > > > proud pro-military supporter. > > > > > otoh - it's hard to prevent the school from sending your child to an > > > > auditorium to listen to recruiters > > > > you can, however, instruct your child not to attend. Again, hope that > > > > your child's teacher is not a proud pro-military supporter. > > > > > On Nov 1, 9:51 pm, Malclom Little <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This is yet another reason why the No Child Left Behind Act is > > complete > > > > and > > > > > total Bulls$%t!!!! It requires students to take standardized test > > that > > > > > colleges dont really look at. Teachers are subsequently compelled to > > > > teach > > > > > to test and only cover what the test will cover. And to make matters > > > > worst > > > > > it allows the military to ILLEGALLY acquire our young ones Identity? > > I > > > > love > > > > > this country to death but this is ridiculous!!!!!... > > > > > > read more » > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM, M. Johnson <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > *A Few Good Kids? > > > > > > **How Iow the No Child Left Behind Act allowed military recruiters > > to > > > > > > collect info on millions of unsuspecting teens > > > > > > *by David Goodman > > > > > > > September/October 2009 Issue < > >http://www.motherjones.com/toc/2009/09> > > > > > > > *John Travers* was striding purposefully into the Westfield mall in > > > > > > Wheaton, Maryland, for some back-to-school shopping before starting > > his > > > > > > junior year at Bowling Green State University. When I asked him > > whether > > > > he'd > > > > > > ever talked to a military recruiter, Travers, a 19-year-old African > > > > American > > > > > > with a buzz cut, a crisp white T-shirt, and a diamond stud in his > > left > > > > ear, > > > > > > smiled wryly. "To get to lunch in my high school, you had to pass > > > > > > recruiters," he said. "It was overwhelming." Then he added, "I > > thought > > > > the > > > > > > recruiters had too much information about me. They called me, but I > > > > never > > > > > > gave them my phone number." > > > > > > > Nor did he give the recruiters his email address, Social Security< > > > >http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/05/security-blanket-how-soci.. > > .>number, > > > > or details about his ethnicity, shopping habits, or college plans. > > > > > > Yet they probably knew all that, too. In the past few years, the > > > > military > > > > > > has mounted a virtual invasion into the lives of young Americans. > > Using > > > > data > > > > > > mining, stealth websites, career tests, and sophisticated marketing > > > > > > software, the Pentagon is harvesting and analyzing information on > > > > everything > > > > > > from high school students' GPAs and SAT scores to which video games > > > > they > > > > > > play. Before an Army recruiter even picks up the phone to call a > > > > prospect > > > > > > like Travers, the soldier may know more about the kid's habits than > > do > > > > his > > > > > > own parents. > > > > > > > The military has long struggled to find more effective ways to > > reach > > > > > > potential enlistees; for every new GI it signed up last year, the > > Army > > > > spent > > > > > > $24,500 on recruitment. (In contrast, four-year colleges spend an > > > > average of > > > > > > $2,000 per incoming student.) Recruiters hit pay dirt in 2002, when > > > > > > then-Rep. (now Sen.) David Vitter< > > > >http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2007/07/senator-david-vitter-hurrican.. > > .>(R-La.) > > > > slipped a provision into the No > > > > > > Child Left Behind Act< > > > >http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2002/11/no-child-unrecruited>that > > > > requires high schools to give recruiters the names and contact details > > > > > > of all juniors and seniors. Schools that fail to comply risk losing > > > > their > > > > > > NCLB funding. This little-known regulation effectively transformed > > > > President > > > > > > George W. Bush's signature education bill into the most aggressive > > > > military > > > > > > recruitment tool since the draft. Students may sign an opt-out > > formbut > > > > not > > > > > > all school districts let them know about it. > > > > > > > Yet NCLB is just the tip of the data iceberg. In 2005, privacy > > > > advocates > > > > > > discovered that the Pentagon had spent the past two years quietly > > > > amassing > > > > > > records from Selective Service, state DMVs, and data brokers to > > create > > > > a > > > > > > database of tens of millions of young adults and teens, some as > > young > > > > as 15. > > > > > > The massive data-mining project is overseen by the Joint > > Advertising > > > > Market > > > > > > Research & Studies program, whose website <http://www.jamrs.org/> > > has > > > > > > described the database, which now holds 34 million names, as > > "arguably > > > > the > > > > > > largest repository of 16-25-year-old youth data in the country." > > The > > > > JAMRS > > > > > > database is in turn run by Equifax, the credit reporting giant. > > > > > > > Marc Rotenberg, head of the Electronic Privacy Information Center< > > > >http://epic.org/>, > > > > > > says the Pentagon's initial failure to disclose the collection of > > the > > > > > > information likely violated the Privacy Act< > > > >http://www.hhs.gov/foia/privacy/index.html>. > > > > > > In 2007, the Pentagon settled a lawsuit (filed by the New York > > Civil > > > > > > Liberties Union) by agreeing to stop collecting the names and > > Social > > > > > > Security numbers of anyone younger than 17 and promising not to > > share > > > > its > > > > > > database records with other government agencies. Students may opt > > out > > > > of > > > > > > having their JAMRS database information sent to recruiters, but > > only > > > > 8,700 > > > > > > have invoked this obscure safeguard. > > > > > > > The Pentagon also spends about $600,000 a year on commercial data > > > > brokers, > > > > > > notably the Student Marketing Group and the American Student List, > > > > which > > > > > > boasts that it has records for 8 million high school students. Both > > > > > > companies have been accused of using deceptive practices to gather > > > > > > information: In 2002, New York's attorney general sued SMG for > > telling > > > > high > > > > > > schools it was surveying students for scholarship and financial aid > > > > > > opportunities yet selling the info to telemarketers; the Federal > > Trade > > > > > > Commission charged ASL with similar tactics. Both companies > > eventually > > > > > > settled. > > > > > > > The Pentagon is also gathering data from unsuspecting Web surfers. > > This > > > > > > year, the Army spent $1.2 million on the website March2Success.com< > > > >https://www.march2success.com/index.cfm>, > > > > > > which provides free standardized test-taking tips devised by prep > > > > firms<http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1998/11/those-who-cant-test > > >such > > > > as Peterson's, Kaplan, and Princeton Review. The only indications that > > > > > > the Army runs the site, which registers an average of 17,000 new > > users > > > > each > > > > > > month, are a tiny tagline and a small logo that links to the main > > > > > > recruitment website, GoArmy.com. Yet visitors' contact information > > can > > > > be > > > > > > sent to recruiters unless they opt out, and students also have the > > > > option of > > > > > > having a recruiter monitor their practice test scores. Terry > > Backstrom, > > > > who > > > > > > runs March2Success.com for the US Army Recruiting Command at Fort > > Knox, > > > > > > insists that it is about "good will," not recruiting. "We are > > providing > > > > a > > > > > > great service to schools that normally would cost them." > > > > > > > Recruiters are also data mining the classroom. More than 12,000 > > high > > > > > > schools administer the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery, > > a > > > > > > three-hour multiple-choice test originally created in 1968 to match > > > > > > conscripts with military assignments. Rebranded in the mid-1990s as > > the > > > > > > "ASVAB Career Exploration Program," the test has a cheerful home > > page > > > > that > > > > > > makes no reference to its military applications, instead declaring > > that > > > > it > > > > > > "is designed to help students learn more about themselves and the > > world > > > > of > > > > > > work." A student who takes the test is asked to divulge his or her > > > > Social > > > > > > Security number, GPA, ethnicity, and career interestsall of which > > is > > > > then > > > > > > logged into the JAMRS database. In 2008, more than 641,000 high > > school > > > > > > students took the ASVAB; 90 percent had their scores sent to > > > > recruiters. > > > > > > Tony Castillo of the Army's Houston Recruiting Battalion says that > > > > ASVAB is > > > > > > "much more than a test to join the military. It is really a gift to > > > > public > > > > > > education." > > > > > > > Concerns about the ASVAB's links to > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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