Zeb, Your claims, YOU prove them.
On Dec 6, 9:25 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > Easy enough to check out......if you dare. > > On Dec 6, 9:17 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Zeb, > > > So you claim. > > > On Dec 5, 11:34 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >And what makes you think President Obama is NOT? > > > > The fact that Pelosi and Reid are driving the health care legislation > > > and nobody knows where Obama stands on it. He's going, he's not > > > going....OK he's going for only one day to Copenhagen to say....who > > > knows what the fuck he's going to say? He's been out of the country in > > > his first year more than any President in history...by a long shot and > > > he's not done yet. So many to apologize to, so little time. > > > > On Dec 5, 7:18 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > dick, > > > > > And what makes you think President Obama is NOT? Grow up, EVERY > > > > politician "plays candidate" pretty much every day he/she's in office. > > > > Why do you think photographers and the press where on hand to watch > > > > President Bush do something as mundane as clearing brush on his hobby > > > > ranch? > > > > > On Dec 5, 5:46 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > And may I remind that he was working on all those days. He was not > > > > > out > > > > > there playing candidate. He took his work with him. And he did make > > > > > decisions on those days. What has Zero done on his vacations so far. > > > > > > > > > > No work, that is for sure. He has barely done any work since he was > > > > > inaugurated. > > > > > > Besides Zero is president now, unfortunately for the country. He has > > > > > decisions to make and policies to set in motion. You know, doing what > > > > > presidents are supposed to do. > > > > > > Hollywood wrote On 12/05/2009 06:29 PM: > > > > > > > dick, > > > > > > > <<Sigh>>> Shall I once again list how many days of his Presidency > > > > > > George Bush was away from D.C. and/or taking "vacation days"? God > > > > > > forbid a politician actually leave Washington,D.C. and see for > > > > > > himself > > > > > > what's going on. Why shouldn't he be "campaigning"? You clowns have > > > > > > been "campaigning" against him and feverishly planning for the 2010 > > > > > > mid-terms and 2012 national elections since the day he took office. > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 4:42 pm, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> God forbid he stay in DC and actually do something that will make > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> jobs report more than a set of numbers of how many jobs were lost. > > > > > >> No, > > > > > >> he has to do some more campaigning instead and hope that somebody > > > > > >> is > > > > > >> minding the store. > > > > > > >>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/us/politics/05obama.html?_r=1&th&em... > > > > > > >> December 5, 2009 > > > > > > >> In Speech, Obama Calls Jobs Report a 'Hopeful Sign' > > > > > > >> By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/sheryl_g...> > > > > > >> and JACKIE CALMES > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/jackie_c...> > > > > > > >> ALLENTOWN, Pa. --- President Obama > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_o...> > > > > > >> came to this aging factory town in Pennsylvania's Rust Belt on > > > > > >> Friday to > > > > > >> promote his efforts to revitalize the American economy, and wound > > > > > >> up > > > > > >> with an early Christmas present of sorts in the form of the report > > > > > >> showing an improving employment situation. > > > > > > >> "This is good news, just in time for the season of hope," Mr. > > > > > >> Obama said > > > > > >> in a speech at Lehigh Carbon Community College in suburban > > > > > >> Allentown. > > > > > >> "I've got to admit, my chief economist, Christy Romer, she got > > > > > >> about > > > > > >> four hugs when she handed us the report. But I do want to keep > > > > > >> this in > > > > > >> perspective. We've still got a long way to go." > > > > > > >> But if Obama administration officials were exchanging hugs, they > > > > > >> were > > > > > >> also keenly aware that Friday's report, which showed that 11,000 > > > > > >> jobs > > > > > >> disappeared in November, as opposed to the six-figure job losses > > > > > >> many > > > > > >> economists had expected, is only "moderately encouraging news," as > > > > > >> Mr. > > > > > >> Obama himself said here. > > > > > > >> Democrats in the administration and in Congress said the report > > > > > >> would > > > > > >> not slow their immediate plans for further stimulus measures. The > > > > > >> White > > > > > >> House and Congressional Democratic leaders proceeded Friday with > > > > > >> plans > > > > > >> to allocate as much as $170 billion to aid those without jobs and > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> create new jobs. > > > > > > >> The House and Senate have agreed to add roughly $100 billion in > > > > > >> extended > > > > > >> emergency benefits for the long-term unemployed to the final > > > > > >> spending > > > > > >> bill for this fiscal year, which they hope to send to Mr. Obama > > > > > >> before > > > > > >> Christmas. > > > > > > >> The unemployment measure would extend provisions in the $787 > > > > > >> billion > > > > > >> economic stimulus package > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/u/united...> > > > > > >> that otherwise would expire at the end of the month, and leave an > > > > > >> estimated one million people without compensation in January. It > > > > > >> also > > > > > >> would extend food stamp benefits and a subsidy to help the > > > > > >> unemployed > > > > > >> keep their health insurance. > > > > > > >> Separately, House leaders are moving a bill providing roughly $70 > > > > > >> billion for additional building projects and aid to local and state > > > > > >> governments so they are not forced to lay off teachers and first > > > > > >> responders. The bill would also expand lending to small businesses, > > > > > >> which say credit lines from banks remain frozen. > > > > > > >> To offset the cost, Democrats propose to use unspent money from > > > > > >> the $700 > > > > > >> billion bailout > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/credit...> > > > > > >> fund for financial institutions, and the White House has agreed to > > > > > >> go > > > > > >> along after initial hesitance. Republicans on Friday objected that > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> bailout balance should go toward the deficit. They said little > > > > > >> about the > > > > > >> jobs report, however, in contrast with past months when they were > > > > > >> quick > > > > > >> to seize on rising unemployment to claim that Democratic policies > > > > > >> had > > > > > >> failed. > > > > > > >> As both parties head into next year's midterm elections, the jobs > > > > > >> issue > > > > > >> will be front and center. But Friday's better-than-expected new > > > > > >> jobless > > > > > >> figures gave Democrats hope that the coming election year would > > > > > >> not be > > > > > >> as bad for the party as many had feared. > > > > > > >> "If the trends continue --- and I underline 'if'--- the economy > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> soon be producing jobs rather than shedding jobs, and the debate > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> shift," said a senior administration official, speaking > > > > > >> anonymously to > > > > > >> discuss strategy. This official said Democrats hoped to put > > > > > >> Republicans > > > > > >> on the defensive with language like "You handed us an economy that > > > > > >> was > > > > > >> shedding 700,000 jobs a month, and we managed an economy that > > > > > >> finally > > > > > >> started to produce jobs." > > > > > > >> Geoff Garin, a Democratic pollster, said Democrats could win even > > > > > >> if > > > > > >> people were dissatisfied with the economy, so long as they thought > > > > > >> it > > > > > >> was getting better. "The more we can move people from the > > > > > >> 'dissatisfied > > > > > >> and not getting better' category to the 'dissatisfied but getting > > > > > >> better' category, the better off Democrats will be for 2010," Mr. > > > > > >> Garin > > > > > >> said. > > > > > > >> Mr. Obama is facing his own pressures. His fellow Democrats have > > > > > >> been > > > > > >> grumbling for weeks that he has seemed disengaged from the nation's > > > > > >> economic woes as he grapples with Afghanistan and health care. The > > > > > >> administration is now renewing its focus on the economy. Mr. Obama > > > > > >> held > > > > > >> a White House jobs summit on Thursday, and on Tuesday, he will > > > > > >> unveil > > > > > >> proposals to help businesses expand hiring in a speech at the > > > > > >> Brookings > > > > > >> Institution > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/b/b...>, > > > > > >> a liberal-leaning research group. > > > > > > >> The Allentown swing, the first of a series of trips that the > > > > > >> administration is billing as a "White House to Main Street" tour, > > > > > >> was > > > > > >> intended to humanize the effort. The president spent Friday > > > > > >> hop-scotching across the city memorialized in the 1980s Billy Joel > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/j/billy_jo...> > > > > > >> tune as the place where "they're closing all the factories down." > > > > > > >> At Allentown Metal Works, a complex of cavernous aging red-brick > > > > > >> factory > > > > > >> buildings, he met with men in hardhats who are working on > > > > > >> components for > > > > > >> the transportation hub underneath the new World Trade Center in > > > > > >> Lower > > > > > >> Manhattan. He ate a cheeseburger and fries (his standard > > > > > >> average-guy > > > > > >> lunch) at a local diner, where he chatted up local business > > > > > >> leaders. > > > > > > >> At a career counseling center, he encouraged unemployed workers to > > > > > >> keep > > > > > >> looking for jobs, telling them, "I just want you to know I'm > > > > > >> thinking > > > > > >> about you every day." He wrapped up his day at the Nestl Purina pet > > > > > >> food factory, where he arrived between shift changes to shake the > > > > > >> hands > > > > > >> of more than 180 employees, clad in blue work uniforms and ball > > > > > >> caps, > > > > > >> who lined up single file to greet him one by one. > > > > > > >> In his speech at the community college > > > > > >> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/c/commun...>, > > > > > >> the president tried to personalize the issue, saying his own > > > > > >> family was > > > > > >> not immune. > > > > > > >> "I know times are > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
