Re: Abortion is Legalized Homicide and should be repealed from our laws based on the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004

[M. Johnson]

Doug Baggett
   The issue is a fairly straight forward one. At it's base is the disagreement
   over where/when the legal rights of an individual begin. If you believe that
   prior to birth a fetus is NOT a child (legally speaking)then it's obviously the
   right of the woman to choose. IF on the other hand it IS legally a person
   then the child's right to live trumps any choice a woman might have (with
   the exception where the mother's life is in danger which is a slight bit fuzzy)

MJ
In reality it matters NOT 'when life begins' NOR 'when one wishes to
attach rights' ...

Individual A has no right to the life of Individual B.  The Unborn has no
right to the life of the Woman.  The Unborn has no right to enslave the
Woman.  The Woman has EVERY right to defend Her life from the
Unborn.


Doug Baggett
   It's been my experience that most pro-choice advocates avoid the
   question of the status of unborn children entirely. It's almost a
   non sequitur.
   Pro-life advocates mostly derive their positions from religious
   faith and since faith is a self-evident truth it's a bit difficult to debate.

MJ
I find it amusing that the Pro-Slavery Camp and the Pro-Choice Camp
essentially 'swap' positions and arguments ONCE the unborn becomes
born.

Regard$,
--MJ

A right is the sanction of independent action. A right is that
which can be exercised without anyone's permission. If you exist
only because society permits you to exist, you have no right to
your own life. A permission can be revoked at any time. If,
before undertaking some action, you must obtain the permission
of society - you are not free, whether such permission is granted
to you or not. Only a slave acts on permission. A permission is
not a right. -- Alyssa Rosenbaum

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