On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Corey <[email protected]> wrote: > Abortion is not illegal and it is none of anyone's business what > someone else does to their own body.
You are right, but there are those that believe that an unborn child by it's very existence is an individual with equal rights. That position does not necessarily depend on religious faith. > > I find it humorous that those on the "Right" want to be able to tell > woman what to do with their bodies, tell gays who they can marry, and > at the same time, tell everyone the government should not step into > someone's personal life and take away their gun. > > Oh yes, the Second Amendment. > > Okay > > I trump that with the First Amendment excerpt. > > > How about this Constitution excerpt: > > "secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity" > > > How about the Declaration excerpt: > > "that all men are created equal...... Rights, that among these are > Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." > > > What I see is freedom WITHOUT the government of any other human being > telling me what I can and cannot do. > > > However, I understand when talking to religious folks, no matter what > anyone says, you have your little book and little god to trump > everything everyone else says. > > Why discuss or debate if all you want to do is tell people what to do? > > Religion is for the weak and lost. > > > "The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is > the first and only legitimate object of good government." ~ Thomas > Jefferson > > “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any > sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no > character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of > Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act > of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the > parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever > produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two > countries.” > ~ Tripoli of Barbary. Art. 11. - Authored by American diplomat Joel > Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the > Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and > unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it > and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation. > > > "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good > is my religion". ~ Thomas Paine > > > "The number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood and the > devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total > separation of the Church and the State." ~ James Madison a.k.a. 'The > Father of the Constitution of the United States of America > > > "The United States of America should have a foundation free from the > influence of clergy." ~ George Washington > > > "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction > of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we > have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the > effect of coercion? To make half the world fools, and the other half > hypocrites." ~ Thomas Jefferson > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
