Right about it being illegal that is. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Doug Baggett <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Corey <[email protected]> wrote: >> Abortion is not illegal and it is none of anyone's business what >> someone else does to their own body. > > > You are right, but there are those that believe that an unborn child > by it's very existence is an individual with equal rights. That > position does not necessarily depend on religious faith. > >> >> I find it humorous that those on the "Right" want to be able to tell >> woman what to do with their bodies, tell gays who they can marry, and >> at the same time, tell everyone the government should not step into >> someone's personal life and take away their gun. >> >> Oh yes, the Second Amendment. >> >> Okay >> >> I trump that with the First Amendment excerpt. >> >> >> How about this Constitution excerpt: >> >> "secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity" >> >> >> How about the Declaration excerpt: >> >> "that all men are created equal...... Rights, that among these are >> Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." >> >> >> What I see is freedom WITHOUT the government of any other human being >> telling me what I can and cannot do. >> >> >> However, I understand when talking to religious folks, no matter what >> anyone says, you have your little book and little god to trump >> everything everyone else says. >> >> Why discuss or debate if all you want to do is tell people what to do? >> >> Religion is for the weak and lost. >> >> >> "The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is >> the first and only legitimate object of good government." ~ Thomas >> Jefferson >> >> “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any >> sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no >> character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of >> Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act >> of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the >> parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever >> produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two >> countries.” >> ~ Tripoli of Barbary. Art. 11. - Authored by American diplomat Joel >> Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the >> Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and >> unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it >> and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation. >> >> >> "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good >> is my religion". ~ Thomas Paine >> >> >> "The number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood and the >> devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total >> separation of the Church and the State." ~ James Madison a.k.a. 'The >> Father of the Constitution of the United States of America >> >> >> "The United States of America should have a foundation free from the >> influence of clergy." ~ George Washington >> >> >> "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction >> of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we >> have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the >> effect of coercion? To make half the world fools, and the other half >> hypocrites." ~ Thomas Jefferson >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >
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