Hollywood,

And where are these mythical 'better people' supposed to come from?
Are better people campaigning against the crooks and just never
managing to win?

Yep, sure do. How about we get rid of DHS *and* not do government
healthcare. That would be a great start.


On Mar 1, 7:19 pm, Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com> wrote:
> frankg,
>
> #1 Already answered that comment. Elect better people.
>
> #2 Same answer as above.
>
> #3 How about we trade DHS for Nationalized Health Care?  You DO
> understand, don't you, that DHS vastly increased the size of the
> govt.?
>
> On Mar 1, 5:53 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hollywood,
>
> > > "Elect better people, restore the checks and balances in government."
>
> > Checks and balances are built into the system but they no longer work.
> > Government has gotten way to big and that breeds corruption.
>
> > > "Never let anyone, or any group, obtain too much power and/or retain it 
> > > for too long."
>
> > Interesting concept considering Congress makes up the rules for
> > Congress.
>
> > > "Did I say anything about MORE govt. involvement? No, I think not."
>
> > Of course you want more government involvement -- you support
> > government healthcare.
>
> > On Mar 1, 5:30 pm, Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > frankg,
>
> > > Elect better people, restore the checks and balances in government.
> > > Never let anyone, or any group, obtain too much power and/or retain it
> > > for too long. We get the govt. that we are willing to tolerate. WE are
> > > responsible for the govt. we have, there is no one to blame except
> > > ourselves.
> > > Did I say anything about MORE govt. involvement? No, I think not.
>
> > > On Mar 1, 3:55 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hollywood,
>
> > > > Two problems with this;
>
> > > > - When and where does it end. Government continues to expand and is
> > > > now fully self perpetuating. Someone has to step up and state the
> > > > obvious – it has to stop. 2.5 million employees.. come on!
>
> > > > - The agencies that exist today are not particularly effective in any
> > > > of what you claim they do. We’re getting cheated today by corporations
> > > > making bad decisions and with no accountability. Our air and water
> > > > quality continues to decline. And our sons and daughters are dying in
> > > > wars fought for corporate profit.
>
> > > > The problem is we have a society that more and more looks to
> > > > government to do everything for them and government is notoriously
> > > > ineffective at getting anything done. We need less government
> > > > involvement, not more, and we need to be better at holding government
> > > > accountable for what we do ask of it.
>
> > > > On Mar 1, 2:16 pm, Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > MJ,
>
> > > > > Key word in Mr. Madison's quote is "impartially". Tell me, just what
> > > > > agency is ABLE to hold Corporations responsible and LIABLE for their
> > > > > actions if not state and/or Federal govt.? You propose a dictatorship
> > > > > of the Corporations? No recourse to their decisions, no
> > > > > accountability? Does the citizen have a right to be not cheated? Do I
> > > > > have a right to breathe clean air, drink clean water? Do I have a
> > > > > right to not have sons die in wars fought for Corporate profits?
>
> > > > > On Mar 1, 12:46 pm, "M. Johnson" <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hollwood
> > > > > >     No need for the ATF, DOT or DOE? Are you kidding?
>
> > > > > > MJ
> > > > > > A whole lot more can be abolished than those ...
>
> > > > > > What is it you imagine government should do?
>
> > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > --MJ
>
> > > > > > Government is instituted to protect property
> > > > > > of every sort; as well that which lies in the
> > > > > > various rights of individuals, as that which
> > > > > > the term particularly expresses. This being
> > > > > > the end of government, that alone is a just
> > > > > > government which impartially secures to every
> > > > > > man whatever is his own.  -- James Madison- Hide quoted text -
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