I'm saying that VT's eternal attempts to blame everything in the world and his failed life on Bush are boring. And your goofy interpretations of what people mean to say are also boring.
On Mar 17, 9:12 am, Hollywood <jims29...@gmail.com> wrote: > Zeb, > > What? We HAVEN'T been in Afghanistan for 9 nine years, longer than the > fighting in WWI, WWII and Korea combined? > Are you saying that is not true or are you saying that the truth bores > you? > > On Mar 17, 8:05 am, Zebnick <zebn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You're a one trick pony. Get a new act. You're boring. > > > On Mar 16, 11:03 pm, VT Sean Lewis <thevirtualtr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > We have been at war for 9 years in Afghanistan, if we lose it will be > > > because of the incompetence of Bush. > > > > On Mar 16, 10:42 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36041 > > > > > *Will Congress Lose Afghanistan Like It Lost Vietnam? * > > > > > *by Phillip Jennings * > > > > > 03/16/2010 > > > > > As you prepare for your imminent deployment to Afghanistan, I guess it’s > > > > inevitable that I’m thinking of that time forty five years ago that I > > > > prepared for my deployment to Vietnam as a young lieutenant of Marines. > > > > We’ve talked about the similarities in our respective wars, but there’s > > > > a > > > > lot more I could say. The concurrent publication of my *Politically > > > > Incorrect Guide to the Vietnam > > > > War<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596985674?ie=UTF8&tag=humaneventson...> > > > > * has sharpened our discussions and my ability to comment on your > > > > questions. > > > > > First, it is critically important for Americans to understand the true > > > > history of our involvement. Most important is the fact that the U.S. > > > > military fought brilliantly and defeated the Communist aggressors in > > > > Vietnam. Yes, that’s right. We won the war. And then we saw the > > > > Congress > > > > of the United States throw away that victory by abrogating our > > > > obligations > > > > to continue support of the South Vietnamese. > > > > > Why is that so important? Simply because that fact illuminates the only > > > > way > > > > we can similarly lose in Afghanistan. You will not be defeated on the > > > > battlefield. Of that, there is no question. > > > > > But, as in Vietnam, the administration has all but eliminated the phrase > > > > “win the war” from its rhetoric about the conflict. As the > > > > administrations > > > > prior to President Nixon did in the Vietnam War, the Obama > > > > administration > > > > will continue to confuse and dissemble, not trusting the American > > > > people’s > > > > wisdom, will and judgment. > > > > > The Obama team is -- like the Johnson administration did so often -- > > > > debating the very definition of winning and even question that > > > > possibility. > > > > > However, although there are complicated and sometimes conflicting > > > > elements > > > > of the war in Afghanistan, the fact is that America (and the West) > > > > cannot > > > > abandon that part of the world to hundreds of thousands if not millions > > > > of > > > > West-hating combatants who will have access to increasingly destructive > > > > weapons, recruits and, yes, atomic weapons. Some of the latter are > > > > already > > > > in place in Pakistan, a nation whose future is very much at risk. > > > > > We are not in a war against Islam. But we are at war with an > > > > Islam-derived > > > > ideology and – if we’re truthful about it -- not just the terrorists > > > > but the > > > > nations that finance, arm and comprehensively support them. And -- > > > > facts are > > > > what they are -- those nations and terrorist groups are almost without > > > > exception, Islamic. > > > > > The terrorists and the terrorist-sponsoring nations believe that a > > > > non-conventional war can be fought successfully against the greatest > > > > military force ever assembled. And why wouldn’t they believe that, > > > > given the > > > > timid and hesitant proclamations coming out of Washington? > > > > > The recently deceased leftist ‘intellectual’ Howard Zinn, in his > > > > *People’s > > > > History of the United States*, begins the chapter on the Vietnam War > > > > thusly: > > > > “From 1964 to 1972, the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the > > > > history > > > > of the world made a maximum military effort, with everything short of > > > > atomic > > > > bombs, to defeat a nationalist revolutionary movement in a tiny, peasant > > > > county -- and failed.” The undeniable truth is that the U.S. used a > > > > faulty > > > > strategy far short of a maximum effort and succeeded overwhelmingly. > > > > > The considerable gap between those two statements -- failure and > > > > success -- > > > > is important and that’s why I wrote the book. And that’s why the > > > > American > > > > people need to know what happened between the end of 1972 (really early > > > > 1973 > > > > when the North Vietnamese surrendered) and 1975 when South Vietnam was > > > > lost. > > > > We cannot let it happen again. > > > > > I recently read a brilliant book by David Kilcullen, *The Accidental > > > > Guerrilla; Fighting Small Wars in the Midst of a Big One*. I hope you > > > > will > > > > have a chance to read it. In it, he outlines the “Islamic Way of War.” > > > > > Simply put, the basics are “terrorism against the population, > > > > subversion, > > > > economic warfare (there is no doubt that America fights expensive wars > > > > and > > > > even we have practical limits), propaganda, and hit and run tactics.” He > > > > also quotes the Chinese ‘rules of conventional war’ which calls for > > > > combat > > > > by electronic, diplomatic, cyber, terrorist, political, economic and > > > > propaganda means. Both methods (completely taken from the North > > > > Vietnamese/Communist playbook, although updated) are designed to > > > > overload, > > > > deceive, and exhaust the United States. Kilcullen also restates the > > > > first > > > > rule of non-conventional warfare -- there are no rules. > > > > > What a discomforting paradox the U.S. finds itself in. In the first > > > > half of > > > > the past century we sent our troops abroad praying that they had the > > > > wherewithal, courage and stamina to conquer our enemies. Now our troops > > > > leave our shores praying that those left at home can find the courage > > > > and > > > > stamina to support their almost certain battlefield successes. > > > > > So I hope that in some small way my book can help alert Americans to the > > > > true path of defeat. That it can alert them to the only way our enemies > > > > can > > > > hope to succeed against us -- the loss of heart, determination to do > > > > what’s > > > > right and necessary, and the failure of leadership such as that which > > > > resulted in the shameful forfeiture of blood-won victory in Vietnam. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > *Phillip Jennings served in Vietnam with the United States Marine Corps, > > > > flying helicopters, and in Laos as a pilot for Air America. He is the > > > > author > > > > of the critically acclaimed comic novels Nam-A-Rama and Goodbye Mexico, > > > > and > > > > won the Pirate** **s Alley Faulkner Society first prize for fiction > > > > with his > > > > short story, ** **Train Wreck in a Small Town.** ** A successful > > > > entrepreneur, he is currently CEO of Molecular Resonance Corporation, > > > > which > > > > is developing technology to detect and disarm Improvised Explosive > > > > Devices. > > > > He lives with his family near Seattle, Washington.*- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
