That's not the point euwe, and you know it. --------- Then why lead with it?
On Jun 21, 10:36 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > The idea that was put forth is that the Coast Guard has no > > right to pull a barge out of action when the captain can't be located, > > and it does not have the proper mandated life saving and fire fighting > > equipment. Life is more important than property. > > That's not the point euwe, and you know it. The USCG does have the > authority, but there is the matter of common sense and prioritizing > actions. Under normal circumstances their response would have been > fine. That these barges were in the middle of responding to a massive > environmental disaster changes this. These were not 'pleasure cruise' > barges with drunk passengers. These barges had been operational > already for a week before the USCG got invovled. Nothing was done in > port that could not have been done at sea with operations continuing. > At a minimum it's gross incompetence, worst case it was deliberate > sabotage. > > On Jun 21, 10:43 am, euwe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This discussion of Cheney > > ------- > > This is a discussion about authority and the respect it deserves. Bush > > commuted Libby's sentence, not Cheney - it's a discussion about the > > authority of the government through Bush, who undercut the authority > > of law. The idea that was put forth is that the Coast Guard has no > > right to pull a barge out of action when the captain can't be located, > > and it does not have the proper mandated life saving and fire fighting > > equipment. Life is more important than property. > > > On Jun 21, 9:37 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > euwe, > > > > This discussion of Cheney is nothing more than your ongoing effort to > > > deflect from or obfuscate the real issue, which is that the Obama > > > administration has, on more than a dozen occasions, slowed or blocked > > > efforts to clean up the oil spill. You've proven your political agenda > > > is more important than containing the disaster and that you are either > > > foolish or naive enough to believe that the handling of the disaster > > > by this administration is anything short of gross negligence. > > > > You're no better or worse than those who defended Bush in the face of > > > his many failings. Until the general population wakes up and stops > > > looking at events thru colored glasses we can forget about getting > > > this country back on track. > > > > On Jun 21, 9:16 am, euwe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > And again he did not pardon Libby > > > > =--- > > > > he commuted his sentence - that's a form of pardon, but not a full > > > > pardon. It is covered under the same Presidential power of executive > > > > clemency. He merely didn't clear him of wrong doing - he "just" > > > > removed the inconvenience of serving jail time. Bush had a stake in > > > > Libby's obstruction of justice, and probably was forced into the > > > > compromise by Cheney. After that, they weren't so chummy. > > > > > On Jun 20, 9:42 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > And again he did not pardon Libby so your whole point is moot. What > > > > > you are saying is that in reality you have no leg to stand on so you > > > > > are > > > > > just flailing around throwing mud but it won't stick. Typical Dem > > > > > MO. > > > > > > euwe wrote: > > > > > > sovereign authority and the respect due. > > > > > > > On Jun 20, 7:21 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Just what does that have to do with the subject at hand. > > > > > > >>> or "I pardoned Libby?" > > > > > > >>> On Jun 20, 5:39 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Whatever happened to "Personal Responsibility" ?? These ships > > > > > >>>> were > > > > > >>>> not manned by tourists but by seasoned sailors who are just, if > > > > > >>>> not > > > > > >>>> more so, concerned with the preservation of their own life as the > > > > > >>>> USCG. > > > > > > >>>> Just which professional is more correct... the seasoned sailor > > > > > >>>> or the > > > > > >>>> seasoned sailor commanded by an organization that has never had a > > > > > >>>> successful "private or public" enterprise ?? > > > > > > >>>> On Jun 18, 4:01 pm, euwe <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> oh, I get it - you're a libertoonian. So have you got your own > > > > > >>>>> carpet > > > > > >>>>> cleaning business? Or maybe you refinish parking lot blacktops? > > > > > > >>>>> On Jun 18, 4:36 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>http://libertarian2010.wordpress.com/2010/06/18/libertarians-say-gove...text > > > > > >>>>>> - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
