*False twisted pretzel pundit logic. * ** *The point of DADT repeal is to allow gays to serve.*
*-The Other Annointed One * On 10/13/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > Without DADT you will revert to this Art. 117 clause, > > Any person subject to this chapter who uses provoking or reproachful > words or gestures towards any other person subject to this chapter > shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. > > And the standard is that within the (each and every different) > command. A gentle hip roll or a floppy wrist is more than enough.... > This section is as old as the military and has been upheld by the > Supremes... > > With DADT Gays were protected because sexual proclivity was > inadmissible. They now LOSE the right to NOT answer that question. > > Yes, Tommy, a real victory by the blind and the stupid. > > > > On Oct 13, 9:51 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > Judge acts while others debate Pentagon gay policy > > > > By PETE YOST (AP) – 8 hours ago > > > > WASHINGTON — A federal judge's ruling that the military must stop its > "don't > > ask, don't tell" policy comes amid conflicting concerns of gays who think > > the government is moving too slowly to let them serve openly and Pentagon > > officials who believe that moving too quickly might disrupt a military > > engaged in war. > > > > Gay rights groups have said they are disappointed that legislation to > > override the ban is likely to languish in Congress until next year, when > > Democrats could have fewer seats and less power to override Republican > > objections. > > > > Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mike > > Mullen, the military's top uniformed officer, have supported lifting the > ban > > on gays serving openly. But Gates and Mullen also have warned that they > > would prefer to move slowly. > > > > Meantime, despite a federal judge's ruling in San Diego on Tuesday, the > > battle in the courts over gays in the military may be far from over. > > > > The Justice Department's first response may well be another trip to the > > courtroom of U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips in San Diego to seek a > > stay, or temporary freeze, of her ruling. If Phillips turns down the > > request, the Justice Department likely turn to the federal appeals court > in > > California. > > > > It was unclear whether Phillips' injunction against the 17-year-old > policy > > on gays in the military would affect any ongoing cases. > > > > Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell, traveling with Gates in Hanoi, Vietnam, > > said, "We have just learned of the ruling and are now studying it. We > will > > be in consultation with the Department of Justice about how best to > > proceed." > > > > If the government does not appeal, the injunction cannot be reversed and > > would remain in effect. If it does appeal, that would put the > administration > > in the position of continuing to defend a law it opposes. > > > > With so much uncertainty, it also was unclear whether the ruling would > have > > any immediate effect on the midterm election campaigns that so far have > > focused far more on economic than national security issues. > > > > Gay rights groups warned gay troops not to disclose their identity for > now. > > Aaron Tax, the legal director for the Servicemembers Legal Defense > Network, > > said he expects the Justice Department to appeal the case to the U.S. 9th > > Circuit Court of Appeals. > > > > "Service members must proceed safely and should not come out at this > time," > > Tax said in a statement. > > > > Gates, a Republican, and Mullen face disagreement among the most senior > > general officers on whether lifting the ban would cause serious > disruption > > at a time when troops are fighting in Afghanistan and winding down a long > > battle in Iraq. > > > > For example, the incoming Marine commandant, Gen. Joseph Amos, and his > > predecessor, Gen. James Conway, both have told Congress that they think > most > > Marines would be uncomfortable with the change and that the current > policy > > works. > > > > In part to resolve the question of how the troops feel, Gates has ordered > a > > study due Dec. 1 that includes a survey of troops and their families. > > > > Obama agreed to the Pentagon study. Obama also worked with Democrats to > > write a bill that would have lifted the ban, pending completion of the > > Defense Department review and certification from the military that troop > > morale wouldn't suffer. That legislation passed the House but was blocked > in > > the Senate by Republicans. > > > > Democrats could revive the legislation in Congress' lame-duck session > after > > the Nov. 2 elections. > > > > Family Research Council President Tony Perkins accused Phillips of > "playing > > politics" with national defense. > > > > "Once again, an activist federal judge is using the military to advance a > > liberal social agenda, disregarding the views of all four military > service > > chiefs and the constitutional role of Congress," he said. > > > > Perkins urged the Justice Department "to fulfill its obligation to defend > > the law vigorously through the appeals process" and said "Congress should > > make clear that it will not tolerate this judicial activism." > > > > Gates has said the purpose of his study isn't to determine whether to > change > > the "don't ask, don't tell" law, which is something he says is probably > > inevitable but for Congress to decide. Instead, the study is intended to > > determine how to end the policy without causing serious disruption. > > > > Coming just three weeks before voters go to the polls, Tuesday's ruling > > seemed unlikely to force a final weeks' change of strategy or message as > > candidates pounded home their plans to help put back to work the 15 > million > > Americans lacking jobs. > > > > Polls suggest the economy is driving voters' choices, pushing national > > security and social issues down on their list of concerns. > > More: > http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hxIyhWP4o0LCQi15rYE... > > > > -- > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > Have a great day, > > Tommy > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
