No, They FEAR it. It causes the young to look outside.

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>wrote:

> Good Morning Mark!
>
> I actually agree with you, and I should have expounded a little more in
> that paragraph.  There are actually two different issues that we are
> touching upon.
>
> Those who are "movers and shakers" within Islam, hate everything that is
> Western.  This includes our music, our Levis, our brightly lit and brightly
> colored fast food restaurants, as well as fast food restaurants in
> general.   They hate Western Culture!  They resent it and see it as being
> intrusive upon their own culture.
>
> We, as "Westerners" in general, and when I say "Westerners";  I mean
> Europeans, and to some extend even Israelis,  for the most part don't even
> see our culture as being intrusive on other cultures.
>
> But it is.   Our songs are catchy, (I guess, even Rap songs!!)   our
> clothes are good looking, (as are our women)  and most everything is
> designed from a marketing standpoint, to make it attractive to buy, or to
> shop, or to eat, or to wear, or to ride on/travel; etc., etc., etc.
>
> I think the point you are making, is that Islam hates this.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Keith,
>>
>> After being 100 meters from a moslem on moslem (fundamental vs.
>> moderate) car bombing a couple of weeks ago on the Gaza border I find
>> what you wrote to be well thought out yet simplified.
>>
>> The area that concerns me most is this:
>>
>> ****Many "Liberals";  or those who are not well informed on the all
>> encompassing aspects of Islam, tend to blame the United States  and
>> Western
>> Culture in general,  for "oppressing" Muslims, forcing the Islamic
>> faithful
>> to take extreme action to defend their cultures and beliefs from
>> "Western
>> imperialism".   This is really far from true, and I will try and
>> demonstrate
>> as succinctly as possible. ****
>>
>> It is definitely not oppression that bothers them it is the very fact
>> that western culture exists at all and is more attractive to the
>> younger generations. It does cause the very same young men to be even
>> harder on the women and gays in their society as we all know one thing
>> to be true... give a woman an iota of freedom or liberty and she wants
>> the whole thing.... it is a source of constant irritation and
>> hypocrisy for the men and requires harsher penalties for the women.
>>
>> On Oct 15, 8:52 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > It was about 1991, when I started discovering what Islam was really all
>> > about.
>> >
>> > If anything, today, we have a government that refuses to acknowledge the
>> > dangers of Islam, and keeps trying to sell the American public that its
>> only
>> > a few, "Radical, Fundamentalist"  Muslims that somehow pose a threat.
>> >
>> > These purportedly few "Radical Fundamentalist Muslims"  have caused us
>> all
>> > to change our very lifestyle.  They have caused both pseudo conservative
>> > Republicans and liberal Socialist-Elitist Democrats to pass laws
>> curtailing
>> > our very liberties and freedoms.
>> >
>> > No, if our government were to realistically portray Islam as the danger
>> that
>> > it really is;  a danger that it rightfully portrayed of the former
>> Soviet
>> > Communist Empire, then we would have long ago closed up shop on every
>> Mosque
>> > in this Nation, and sent those Non-American Muslims packing.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Until 1991 the US Government had most Americans fearful of a
>> "communist
>> > > under every bed".  A replacement was  needed.  This time there is no
>> country
>> > > to muck things up by going bankrupt.
>> >
>> > > Regard$,
>> > > --MJ
>> >
>> > > War has all the characteristics of socialism most conservatives hate:
>> > > Centralized power, state planning, false rationalism, restricted
>> liberties,
>> > > foolish optimism about intended results, and blindness to unintended
>> > > secondary results. -- Joseph Sobran
>> >
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