There was no torture, that has been established, proven, and determined. Again, stop the hate, lies and smear Tommy!!
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Since Dubya has now confessed to illegal torture, he should be > prosecuted for that and for his war crimes, Invading Iraq based upon > lies and greed, violating the Geneva Convention and the United Nations > Charter. > Prosecute Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, etc. as well. > > Throw them al in prison and seize their assets, applying them to the > National Defecit they caused. > > On 11/5/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I suspect we wouldn't have all of the sharia law nonsense if W was back. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith In Tampa" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 8:02:12 PM > > Subject: Re: *? 2 ALL: BUSH: 'DAMN RIGHT' I APPROVED WATERBOARDING - WHAT > > ARE YOUR COMMENTS?* > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Tommy News < [email protected] > > wrote: > > > > > > From Greg: > > > > > > > > Hi Team! > > > > *? 2 ALL: > > > > BUSH: 'DAMN RIGHT' > > > > I APPROVED WATERBOARDING - > > > > > > > > In a memoir due out Tuesday, Bush makes clear that > > he personally approved the use of that coercive technique > > against alleged Sept. 11 plotter Khalid Sheik Mohammed, > > an admission the human rights experts say could one > > day have legal consequences for him. - WaPo > > > > > > > > WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS?* > > Greg Dempsey > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST > > Voice of the People > > > > ====== > > > > > > WASHINGTON, Nov. 4, 2010 > > Bush: "Damn Right" I Approved Waterboarding > > In New Memoir, Ex-President Says He Personally OK'd Use of Coercive > > Interrogation Technique that Many Experts Say Is Torture > > a.. (Washingtonpost.com) By Washington Post Staff Writer R. Jeffrey > Smith > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Human rights experts have long pressed the administration of former > > president George W. Bush for details of who bore ultimate > > responsibility for approving the simulated drownings of CIA detainees, > > a practice that many international legal experts say was illicit > > torture. > > > > In his book, titled "Decision Points," Bush recounts being asked by > > the CIA whether it could proceed with waterboarding Mohammed, who Bush > > said was suspected of knowing about still-pending terrorist plots > > against the United States. Bush writes that his reply was "Damn right" > > and states that he would make the same decision again to save lives, > > according to a someone close to Bush who has read the book. > > > > Bush Felt Blindsided Over Abu Ghraib Prison Abuse > > > > Bush previously had acknowledged endorsing what he described as the > > CIA's "enhanced" interrogation techniques - a term meant to encompass > > irregular, coercive methods - after Justice Department officials and > > other top aides assured him they were legal. "I was a big supporter of > > waterboarding," Vice President Richard B. Cheney acknowledged in a > > television interview in February. > > > > The Justice Department later repudiated some of the underlying legal > > analysis for the CIA effort. But Bush told an interviewer a week > > before leaving the White House that "I firmly reject the word > > 'torture,' " and he reiterates that view in the book. Reuters and the > > New York Times first published accounts of the book's contents Tuesday > > evening. > > > > Since the 2003 waterboarding of Mohammed and similar interrogations > > of two other CIA detainees in 2002 and 2003, the agency has forsworn > > the technique, which involves pouring water onto someone's face while > > strapped to a board, to convince them they will shortly drown. > > > > President Obama and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. have both > > said waterboarding is an act of torture proscribed by international > > law, a viewpoint supported by a handful of Republican lawmakers on > > Capitol Hill and opposed by other Republicans. But the Obama > > administration has not sought to punish former Bush administration > > officials for approving it. > > > > The 26-year-old United Nations Convention Against Torture requires > > that all parties to it seek to enforce its provisions, even for acts > > committed elsewhere. That provision, known as universal jurisdiction, > > has been cited in the past by prosecutors in Spain and Belgium to > > justify investigations of acts by foreign officials. But no such > > trials have occurred in foreign courts. > > > > Tom Malinowski, the Washington advocacy director for Human Rights > > Watch, said, "Waterboarding is broadly seen by legal experts around > > the world as torture, and it is universally prosecutable as a crime. > > The fact that none of us expect any serious consequences from this > > admission is what is most interesting." > > > > M. Cherif Boussiani, an emeritus law professor at DePaul University > > who co-chaired the U.N. experts committee that drafted the torture > > convention, said that Bush's admission could theoretically expose him > > to prosecution. But he also said Bush must have presumed that he would > > have the government's backing in any confrontation with others' > > courts. > > > > Georgetown University law professor David Cole, a long-standing > > critic of Bush's interrogation and detention policies, called > > prosecution unlikely. "The fact that he did admit it suggests he > > believes he is politically immune from being held accountable. . . . > > But politics can change." > > > > > > > > © 2010 The Washington Post. All rights reserved. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > Have a great day, > > Tommy > > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community at > > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community at > > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community at > > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
