The politically motivated Conservative SCOTUS made a gigantic and costly mistake in appointing Bush to the Presidency.
The facts of Dubya's bumbling, simple-minded, corrupt, criminal administration, illegal wars, illegal torture, "Bush Doctrine", disregard of the Constitution as "just a piece of paper" (SIC, it is parchment) and the ecomomic meltdown, etc. prove this error as fact. Gore, who won the popular vote as I have shown with concrete data, would have been a far superior selection. On 1/6/11, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > Ramble On is a great Led Zeppelin Tolkein song. > > Will caps help? > > STATE COURTS HAVE NO SAY OR STANDING IN THE ELECTORAL PROCESS. NONE! > > Gore was slaughtered in SCOTUS (9-0 was IT, mate!) and EVERY circuit > (uberdy-duberdy liberal circuits). Even the Florida Chief Justice > called his colleagues fools, and he was a super lib too. > > Your opinion is fine. But the constitution rules. I'll try again: > > STATE COURTS HAVE NO SAY OR STANDING IN THE ELECTORAL PROCESS. NONE! > > Article II, Section 1. > > Christ, READ IT! > > The rest of us have, and your cruelty to dead horses is disgusting > > On Jan 5, 4:11 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> No, Greg, the Reich wing SCOTUS got it wrong. Bush versus Gore was >> decided on political bias rather than on legal grounds. >> >> Empirical Documentation and Proof: >> >> Bush Vs. Gore--Supreme Court Republicans Decide Election >> >> Was the Supreme Court’s ruling an example of judicial activism >> supporting election fraud? There are numerous cases where the state >> courts have supervised recounts, and this should have been another >> such case; however, the Supreme Court stepped in and stopped the >> recount, by overturning the Florida Supreme Court’s holding >> authorizing the recount. Given the diffidence the Republican packed >> Supreme Court has shown both to federal and state governments and >> their courts since November of 1975, political bias is the only >> reasonable conclusion in Bush vs. Gore. Moreover a purported conflict >> of the 2 statutes (7 day limit for certifying an election result, and >> the 6 days to challenge to call for a recount) is easily resolved by >> interpreting as conjunctive, namely that the recount law stays the 7 >> day limit. The Supreme Court didn’t need to overturn the Florida >> Supreme Court holding which stayed the time limit and for Florida made >> election recounts unlikely. Bush versus Gore was decided on political >> rather than legal grounds. >> >> Even more disconcerting is the fact that politics decides law >> enforcement. The criminal violation of election laws and civil rights >> were ignored by the attorney generals’ office (state and federal) and >> the legislative bodies. The attorney general’s offices were filled >> with Republican appointees, and Republicans controlled both federal >> and state legislatures. Obviously our country needs an independent >> department of the FBI set up just to investigate political crimes. I >> would suggest that such a department should be under the supervision >> of law professors—jk. >> >> How the courts handled the election issue >> >> Fromwww.wikipedia.org >> >> Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000), was a U.S. Supreme Court case heard >> on December 11, 2000, which directly influenced the outcome of the >> 2000 presidential election. In three separate opinions, seven justices >> found that a ballot recount then being conducted in certain counties >> in the State of Florida was to be stopped due to the lack of a >> consistent standard; two justices disagreed. A 5-4 majority further >> declared in a per curiam opinion that there was insufficient time to >> establish standards for a new recount that would meet Florida's >> deadline for certifying electors. >> >> The decision stopped the statewide recount that was occurring in >> Florida and allowed Florida Secretary of State (and Bush's Florida >> campaign co-chair) Katherine Harris to certify George W. Bush as the >> winner of Florida's electoral votes. Florida's 25 electoral votes gave >> Bush a majority of the electoral college with 272 votes and enabled >> him to win the Presidency. >> >> The Presidential election in question took place on November 7, 2000. >> Under the Electoral College system, each state conducts its own >> popular election for president, and the winner of each state's >> election receives a number of "electoral votes." The winner of a >> majority of the electoral college is elected President of the United >> States. In 2000, 270 electoral votes were required for victory. >> >> On November 8, 2000, the Florida Division of Elections reported that >> Bush had a margin of victory of 1,784 votes.[1] The margin of victory >> was less than 0.5% of the votes cast so an automatic machine recount >> was issued. The recount resulted in a much smaller margin of victory >> for Bush—on November 10, with the machine recount finished in all but >> one county, Bush's margin of victory had decreased to 327.[2] >> >> Florida's election laws[1] allow a candidate to request a county to >> conduct a manual recount, and Gore requested manual recounts in four >> Florida counties: Volusia, Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade. The >> four counties granted the request and began manual recounts. However, >> Florida law also required all counties to certify their election >> returns to the Florida Secretary of State within seven days of the >> election,[2] and several of the counties conducting manual recounts >> did not believe they could meet this deadline. On November 14, the >> statutory deadline, the Florida Circuit Court ruled that the 7-day >> deadline was mandatory, but that the counties could amend their >> returns at a later date. The court also ruled that the Secretary, >> after "considering all attendant facts and circumstances," had >> discretion to include any late amended returns in the statewide >> certification.[3] Prior to the 5pm deadline on November 14, Volusia >> county completed its manual recount and certified its results. At 5pm, >> Florida's Secretary of State Katherine Harris announced that she was >> in receipt of the certified returns from all 67 counties, while Palm >> Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade counties were still conducting manual >> recounts.[4] >> >> Harris issued a set of criteria[3] by which she would determine >> whether to allow late filings, and she required any county seeking to >> make a late filing to submit to her, by 2 p.m. the following day, a >> written statement of the facts and circumstances justifying the late >> filing. Four counties submitted statements, and, after reviewing the >> submissions, Harris determined that none justified an extension of the >> filing deadline. She further announced that after she received the >> certified returns of the overseas absentee ballots from each county, >> she would certify the results of the presidential election on >> Saturday, November 18, 2000.[5] >> >> On November 16, Gore and Palm Beach filed suit to compel Harris to >> accept the amended returns, and on November 17 appealed the case to >> the Florida Supreme Court.[4] On November 17, the Florida Supreme >> Court issued an injunction preventing Harris from certifying the >> election, pending a final ruling of the court. On November 21, the >> Florida Supreme Court, in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board v. Harris >> (Harris I) ordered Harris to accept the results of any manual recount >> certified before November 26 at 5pm. >> >> On November 22, Bush appealed the Florida Supreme Court's ruling to >> the United States Supreme Court. On December 4, the Court rendered its >> decision in Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Bd., 531 U.S. 70 >> (2000). The Court opinion remanded the case back to the Florida >> Supreme Court for a clarification as to whether the basis for their >> ruling was the Florida constitution or Florida statutes. The Court was >> concerned that if the basis of the ruling was the Florida >> constitution, which was not written by the Florida legislature, the >> ruling might be unconstitutional under Art. II, § 1, cl. 2 ("Each >> state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may >> direct, a number of electors . . ."). >> >> While the Supreme Court appeal was pending, Miami-Dade county canceled >> its manual recount on the ground that it could not complete the >> recount by November 26.[6] Gore sued to compel Miami-Dade to complete >> the recount but lost. On November 26, Harris certified the Florida >> Election. She declared Bush the winner of the Florida election with >> 2,912,790 votes over Gore, who had 2,912,253—a margin of 537 votes, or >> about 0.01%.[7] >> >> BACKGROUND >> >> On November 27, Gore filed suit to contest the certified results of >> the election. The case was heard by Judge N. Sanders Sauls, who denied >> the requested relief on December 4. Gore appealed the case to the >> Florida Supreme Court. On December 8, the Florida Supreme Court issued >> its opinion in Gore v. Harris (Harris II). The court ordered a manual >> recount of only undervotes,[5] to be conducted by the Leon County >> district court, for ballots from the counties and portion of >> Miami-Dade county not subject to the previous manual tally. The court >> further ordered that the results of the November manual recount, which >> was conducted by the various County canvassing boards, for disputed >> ballots in three counties and portions of a fourth county, which would >> have presumeably included some overvotes, be included in the final >> state tally. Bush appealed the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court on >> December 9, and the Court issued a 5-4 injunction stopping the 64 of >> 67 county recount pending a final decision. The split on this was the >> same as the 5-4 split in the final ruling. >> >> The oral arguments in Bush v. Gore were brought before the court on >> December 11 by lawyers representing both sides. Due to the nature of >> the case, the U.S. Supreme Court gave its opinion just 16 hours after >> hearing arguments. The Florida Supreme Court provided the requested >> clarifications on Bush v. Palm Beach County Canvassing Board while the >> U.S. Supreme Court was deliberating Bush v. Gore; the two cases were >> subsequently combined. >> >> RELEVANT LAW >> >> U.S. Const. amend. XIV, § 1 >> "No State shall...deny to any person...the equal protection of the laws." >> >> [edit] >> >> U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl. 2 >> "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof >> may direct, a Number of Electors...." >> >> [edit] >> >> 3 U.S.C. § 5 >> "If any State shall have provided...for its final determination >> of...the appointment of all or any of the electors of such State...at >> least six days before the time fixed for the meeting of the electors, >> such determination...shall be conclusive." >> >> THE ISSUES >> >> The court had to resolve two different questions to fully resolve the >> case. >> >> Who wins on the merits of the case: Bush or Gore? In other words, are >> the recounts as they are currently being conducted, constitutional? >> If the recounts are unconstitutional, what is the remedy? >> The court, especially the majority, had trouble with the timing: they >> thought that there was little chance of the recount being finished by >> the December 12 safe harbor deadline. >> Bush was essentially making two distinct claims: >> >> [edit] >> >> Equal Protection Claim >> Bush argued that the recounts in Florida violated the Equal Protection >> Clause of the 14th Amendment because there was no statewide standard >> that each county board could use to determine whether a given ballot >> was a ... >> >> read more » > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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