On Jan 30, 3:49 pm, Wes <[email protected]> wrote:
> You can never save enough to counter an insufficient income. I believe
> more and more people are falling into that catagory. The title of this
> thread is the poor are not getting poorer, that may be true but more
> people are getting poorer. i once had an almost middle class job and i
> felt pretty normal. now i wonder if i fit the poverty guidelines and i
> feel pretty fortunate to be as well off as i am.
>
> My comments may seem hostile and unfriendly, sorry, didn't want it to
> be so.

I'm pissed about it actually, and you should be too.
The rich are using you as insulation for their fat, and then making
people believe the poor aren't poor enough for their tastes.

The fact that 4 out of the 8 years Bush Jr. was President saw the
lowest savings rates since the Great Depression...yet no one seems to
be able to read the signs of a repeating history.
The rich already own everything, but that isn't enough, they want you
to be asleep and dream the American dream while they steal whatever
else you might have left.

> On Jan 29, 6:44 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >  14 Trillion in debt
> > and 26 Trillion by 2025 at the rate were going. Darn!

The value of all out-rightly owned US assets is some $65 trillion.
So having loans outstanding for $14 trillion isn't bankruptcy, and is
precisely why the US is not in default and won't be anytime soon.
The fact that the rich have become MUCH richer, and still haven't
created the necessary jobs in the US is a mere unwanted deniable fact
that you try to keep quite for good reason.
So your stale lying argument is; "give the rich more".

#1) In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the
average worker's paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that
ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.

#2) A USA Today analysis of government data has found that paychecks
from private business shrank to their smallest share of personal
income in U.S. history during the first quarter of 2010. During the
same time period, government benefits (Social Security, Medicare,
unemployment insurance, food stamps, etc.) rose to a record high.

#3) According to the United Nations, the United States now has the
highest level of income inequality of all of the highly industrialized
nations.

#4) Four of the biggest banks in the United States (Goldman Sachs,
JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup) had a "perfect quarter"
with zero days of trading losses during the first quarter of 2010.

#5) According to economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez, two-
thirds of income increases in the United States between 2002 and 2007
went to the wealthiest 1% of all Americans.

#6) 39.68 million Americans are now on food stamps, which represents a
new all-time record. But things look like they are going to get even
worse. The U.S. Department of Agriculture is forecasting that
enrollment in the food stamp program will exceed 43 million Americans
in 2011.

#7) For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of
residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual
Americans put together.

#8) Over just one three day period, approximately 10,000 people showed
up to apply for just 90 jobs making washing machines in Kentucky for
$27,000 a year.

#9) Executives at many of the big banks that received massive amounts
of government bailout money during the financial crisis are being
lavished with record bonuses as millions of other Americans continue
to suffer.

#10) Younger generations of Americans are particularly struggling. For
example, according to a National Foundation for Credit Counseling
survey, only 58% of those in "Generation Y" pay their monthly bills on
time.

#11) Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the
United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.

#12) Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009,
which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008. Not only that, more
Americans filed for bankruptcy in March 2010 than during any month
since U.S. bankruptcy law was tightened in October 2005.

#13) An analysis of income tax data by the Congressional Budget Office
a couple years ago found that the top 1% wealthiest households in the
United States now own nearly twice as much of the corporate wealth as
they did just 15 years ago.

#14) A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved
up for retirement.

#15) Once great blue collar manufacturing cities such as Detroit have
turned into rusted-out war zones while corporate executives rake in
record bonuses by moving factories to third world nations.

#16) The bottom 40 percent of income earners in the United States now
collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth. So what
does that say about America when nearly half the people are dividing
up just one percent of the pie?

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