Yet another homophobic, insulting, vicious attack, in clear violation of this group's rules, decorum, and mission statement.
On 2/11/11, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > TommyTomTom, > > Condoms are worn for a plethora of reasons.... like to stop the spread of > STDs other than HIV. > > Like I said the promiscuity of the gay community has still not slowed EVEN > WITH THE INFO YOU WOEFULLY SAY WAS LACKING THEY ARE STILL INFECTING EACH > OTHER AT THE RATE OF OVER 17,000 CASES PER YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Let the stupid bastards die, do not spend one cent of my tax dollar on an > idiot. > > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Markie Mark- >> >> You're an idiot. >> This happened before it was widely known that condoms prevented most >> HIV infections. If Reagan had opened his mouth and told people that, >> many lives would have been spared. Instead, he let his Fundie henchman >> proclaim that AIDS was God's punishment on those thousands who became >> sick and died. >> >> Reagan, by his silence, is responsible for all the lives that were >> lost. Their blood is on his hands. >> >> >> On 2/8/11, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> > HEY TOMMY !!!!! >> > >> > They were too stupid to wear a CONDOM ?????? Or were they waiting for >> your >> > proposed and prayed for nanny-state to help them on with one ???? >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Keith In Köln <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> You're an idiot. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Reagan took about six years before he even mentioned the term "AIDS". >> >>> His fundie beliefs backed up his homophobic friends like Jerry >> >>> Falwell, etc. who went around screaming and preaching that gays >> >>> deserved to die and AIDS was their punishment from God. Reagan >> >>> abandoned his gay friends from Hollywood in favor of Conservative >> >>> politics. >> >>> >> >>> During those years of silence, thousands of deaths and many thousands >> >>> of infections could have been prevented if Reagan had simply spoken >> >>> out, and ordered prevention, treatment, and research. Reagan was >> >>> indeed directly responsible for all those deaths and infections due to >> >>> his inaction and silence. >> >>> >> >>> Ronnie did NOTHING while thousands of people died. >> >>> >> >>> Nothing beats diversity, especially when it's a diversity of >> >>> scary-stupid. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 2/7/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > Shit Tommy, I can't get a 20 dollar hooker to screw me without a >> >>> > condom yet 17,000 more gays per year are infected in the US because >> of >> >>> > this simple item.... >> >>> > >> >>> > Again..... Why should I care about an IDIOT ??? >> >>> > >> >>> > On Feb 7, 4:57 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> Ronald Reagan’s Real Legacy: Death, Heartache and Silence Over AIDS >> >>> >> by Karen Ocamb on February 6, 2011 | 12:12 PM >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Reagan AIDSgate poster via ACT UP New York >> >>> >> America is gushing Sunday over former President Ronald Reagan in >> >>> >> recognition of what would have been his 100th birthday. Produced by >> >>> >> Reagan groupies, the long-weekend celebrations at the newly primped >> >>> >> Reagan Library and Museum in Simi Valley are glitzy and reverent >> >>> >> evocations of an imagined man. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> In this white-washed version of history, Reagan, not Soviet Prime >> >>> >> Minister Mikhail Gorbachev (remember “glasnost,” “perestroika,” >> >>> >> and >> >>> >> the impact of Levis, Coke and “Dynasty”?) is credited with “tearing >> >>> >> down” the Berlin Wall; the trillion dollars in debt Reagan wracked >> up >> >>> >> during his “conservative” presidency is ignored; “supply-side” or >> >>> >> “trickle-down” economics” still works, even though >> >>> >> theory-originator >> >>> >> David Stockman says it doesn’t; the Reagan-approved secret >> Iran-Contra >> >>> >> scandal was patriotic, not subversive; and he is still the “Great >> >>> >> Communicator” – who conned working-class “Reagan Democrats” while >> >>> >> catering to the rich, creating a huge surge in homelessness, >> reveling >> >>> >> in unchecked deregulation and extolling union-busting with the mass >> >>> >> firing of the over-worked, striking PATCO flight controllers – even >> >>> >> before there were trained replacements. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> After the depraved Vietnam War, the perennial dark and disgraced >> >>> >> Richard Nixon, the short-term Gerry Ford and the confusing Jimmy >> >>> >> Carter (who orchestrated the Middle East Peace talks but couldn’t >> free >> >>> >> the Iran hostages or prevent long gas lines) – Reagan, the >> “ah-shucks” >> >>> >> bad B-movie actor (Bedtime for Bonzo), huckstered his scripted >> >>> >> “vision” of “Morning in America” viewed from some exceptional shiny >> >>> >> city on the hill. Reagan was the imaged Mount Rushmore president, >> the >> >>> >> right wing conservatives’ longed-for King Arthur who would crush >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> Democratic Dream of FDR and the Kennedys and anyone who believed in >> >>> >> social and economic justice promised by the “counter-culture”1960s. >> >>> >> He’d already proven his anti-Communist bona fides appearing in 1947 >> as >> >>> >> a friendly witness before the House Un-American Activities >> Committee. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> For LGBT people, Ronald Reagan’s presidency was the far different >> >>> >> “mourning in America.” And unlike Nixon who was forced to resign >> >>> >> for >> >>> >> covering up the political Watergate scandal, Reagan didn’t even >> bother >> >>> >> covering up his cold disdain, his deliberate neglect, his abject >> >>> >> refusal to help gay men stricken in 1981 by a strange new >> communicable >> >>> >> disease that turned out to be AIDS. But there was no “AIDSgate” for >> >>> >> Reagan; the White House agreed with the Religious Right that gays >> >>> >> deserved what they got – they deserved to die. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Rev. Jerry Falwell, head of the Moral Majority, said, “AIDS is the >> >>> >> wrath of God upon homosexuals.” Patrick Buchanan, Reagan’s Press >> >>> >> Secretary, said AIDS was “nature’s revenge on gay men.” Antigay >> >>> >> Gary >> >>> >> Bauer, Reagan’s domestic policy advisor, kept Surgeon General C. >> >>> >> Everett Koop (selected because he was an anti-abortion Christian >> >>> >> fundamentalist) away from Reagan: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> ”[In 1986] President Reagan asked the surgeon general to prepare a >> >>> >> report on AIDS as the United States confirmed its ten-thousandth >> case. >> >>> >> Leaders of the evangelical movement did not want Koop to write the >> >>> >> report, nor did senior White House staffers who shared Koop’s >> >>> >> evangelical convictions. As Dr. Koop related to me, “Gary Bauer >> >>> >> [Reagan's chief advisor on domestic policy] … was my nemesis in >> >>> >> Washington because he kept me from the president. He kept me from >> the >> >>> >> cabinet and he set up a wall of enmity between me and most of the >> >>> >> people that surrounded Reagan because he believed that anybody who >> had >> >>> >> AIDS ought to die with it. That was God’s punishment for them.” >> >>> >> >> >>> >> In his extraordinary book And The Band Played On about the early >> >>> >> history of the AIDS epidemic, gay journalist Randy Shilts, who >> >>> >> later >> >>> >> died of AIDS, wrote that two events dramatically changed the course >> of >> >>> >> AIDS in America. The first was the announcement that closeted gay >> >>> >> movie star Rock Hudson had AIDS and the second was the report by >> Koop. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> In an interview with me for the 25 anniversary of the June 5, 1981 >> CDC >> >>> >> report of six gay men with what turned out >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Rock Hudson - publicity photo >> >>> >> to be AIDS, Hudson’s publicist Dale Olson said Reagan called his >> >>> >> longtime friend in July 1985 when Hudson was in a Paris hospital >> >>> >> desperately looking for a cure for AIDS. Nonetheless, the “Great >> >>> >> Communicator” remained silent. It’s not as if Reagan was unaware of >> >>> >> AIDS by then: on April 23, 1984, the CDC had reported 4,177 case >> >>> >> and >> >>> >> 1,807 deaths – something that came to the attention of the National >> >>> >> Democratic Convention when a candlelight vigil of more than 100,000 >> >>> >> people marched from the Castro to Moscone Center. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> California Rep. Henry Waxman, who held the first congressional >> hearing >> >>> >> on the disease at the Gay and Lesbian Community Services Center in >> Los >> >>> >> Angeles in 1983, wrote Washington Post in late 1985: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> “It is surprising that the president could remain silent as 6,000 >> >>> >> Americans died, that he could fail to acknowledge the epidemic’s >> >>> >> existence. Perhaps his staff felt he had to, since many of his New >> >>> >> Right supporters have raised money by campaigning against >> >>> >> homosexuals.” >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Reagan finally mentioned the word “AIDS” in October 1986 and was >> >>> >> virtually forced to deliver his first major speech on AIDS on May >> 31, >> >>> >> 1987 on the eve of the Third International Conference on AIDS in >> >>> >> Washington. He was the invited by Elizabeth Taylor to speak at a >> >>> >> fundraiser for the American Foundation for AIDS Research, which >> Hudson >> >>> >> helped start with a $250,000 grant given to Taylor. (Here’s a link >> to >> >>> >> Reagan’s entire speech.) Outside the tented-event were protesters >> and >> >>> >> yet another candlelight vigil. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Shilts wrote about Reagan’s 20-minute speech: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> “Reagan’s program, of course, would do very little to actually stop >> >>> >> the spread of AIDS. Though testing heterosexuals at marriage >> >>> >> license >> >>> >> bureaus created the illusion of action, very few of thse people >> >>> >> were >> >>> >> infected with the virus and very few lives would be saved. But then >> >>> >> saving lives had never been a priority of the Reagan >> >>> >> administration. >> >>> >> Reagan’s speech was not meant to serve the public health; it was a >> >>> >> political solution to a political problem. The words created a >> stance >> >>> >> that was politically comfortable for the president and his >> adherents; >> >>> >> it was also a stance that killed people. Already, some said that >> >>> >> Ronald Reagan would be remembered in history books for one thing >> >>> >> beyond all else: He was the man who had let AIDS rage through >> America, >> >>> >> the leader of the government that when challenged to action had >> placed >> >>> >> politics above the health of the American people.” >> >>> >> >> >>> >> And not once did Ronald Reagan utter the word “gay.” >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Shilts: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> “By the time President Reagan had delivered his first speech on the >> >>> >> epidemic, of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, 36,058 Americans >> had >> >>> >> been diagnosed with the disease; 20, 849 had died.” >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Photo from WebMD's history of AIDS >> >>> >> -www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/slideshow-aids-retrospective >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On the USAID website, the statistics read: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> “In 2009, 33.3 million people around the world were living with >> >>> >> HIV/AIDS. More than 60 million people have been infected with HIV >> >>> >> since the pandemic began. AIDS is the leading cause of death in >> >>> >> Sub-Saharan Africa, and the fourth leading cause of death >> >>> >> globally…..Almost 5,000 people die every day due to AIDS. AIDS >> caused >> >>> >> 1.8 million deaths in 2009. An estimated 25 million people have >> >>> >> died >> >>> >> from HIV-related causes since the beginning of the pandemic….There >> >>> >> were 2.6 million new HIV infections in 2009, or almost 7,200 people >> >>> >> per day.” >> >>> >> >> >>> >> The terrible irony for LGBT people is that in the very beginning of >> >>> >> the epidemic there was hope that Ronald Reagan would DO something. >> >>> >> There was precedent for the government acting quickly to stem a >> public >> >>> >> health crisis. In 1976, just five years earlier, the government >> rushed >> >>> >> to stop an outbreak of Legionnaires disease at an American Legion >> >>> >> convention in Philadelphia. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> (Corrected) And perhaps even more importantly, in 1978, as former >> >>> >> governor of California, Reagan publicly opposed the Briggs >> Initiative >> >>> >> – the antigay measure proposed by associates of Rev. Jerry Falwell >> and >> >>> >> Anita Bryant. Opposition by the hugely popular governor helped >> >>> >> significantly in the measure’s defeat. As a result, Reagan received >> >>> >> gay support in his presidential bid against Jimmy Carter in 1980, >> >>> >> as >> >>> >> well as the more effective Religious Right. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> But once in office, Reagan turned his back on the gay friends and >> >>> >> staff he and his wife Nancy had known for years. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Most historians and political pundits will look at the ripple >> >>> >> effect >> >>> >> Reagan’s two terms in office – from 1981-1989 – continues to have >> >>> >> on >> >>> >> American politics. But for many LGBTs, myself included, I cannot >> hear >> >>> >> the man’s name without thinking of so many other names now >> effectively >> >>> >> wiped from the collective memory – names like Michael Callen and >> Paul >> >>> >> Monette and Connie Norman and Wayne Karr. So many names – and with >> >>> >> each name, memories of joy and rage and a kind of spirituality in >> >>> >> confronting death with dignity – in spite of the government’s >> >>> >> disgusting deliberate neglect. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Names Project AIDS Quilt - via WebMD >> >>> >> -www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/slideshow-aids-retrospective >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Former President Ronald Reagan died on June 5, 2004 – 23 years to >> the >> >>> >> day when the CDC’s first report on AIDS appeared. Reagan had >> >>> >> apparently been living in seclusion with Alzheimer’s Disease — the >> >>> >> progressive disease that causes loss of memory and mental >> >>> >> abilities. >> >>> >> People gushed for a week remembering the “Great Communicator” who >> was >> >>> >> entombed at his grand presidential library and museum like a >> political >> >>> >> Elvis: Simi Valley as the political Graceland. There his groupies >> >>> >> gather again, while those of us who remember his legacy of horror, >> >>> >> neglect and death still struggle with an un-ending heartbreak of >> what >> >>> >> might have been had our government cared and our friends not ... >> >>> >> >> >>> >> read more » >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >>> > >> >>> > * Visit our other community at >> >>> > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >>> > * It's active and moderated. 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