Government also codifies things that effect far greater numbers of
people than the supposed "marriage" inequity. Such as building codes,
drivers licenses, taxes, etc. yet leaves it to the states to add or
subtract any requisites that the states feel are or are not needed in
that particular state. These are "licensed" activities. They are the
perview of the states and should remain so.

Why can't I take my first drivers test in Alabama and have my first
license issued in Mississippi ?? Why can't I apply for a building
permit in Ohio and do the actual building in Washington DC ?? Some
states give credit for local and state taxes paid in your working
state (if you work across the boarder) if you are a resident in the
neighboring states jurisdiction....others do not.  It always has been
this way with "licensed" activity.... "marriage is a "licensed"
activity.

Do you have one iota of proof that "Marriage" is a "right" ?? If it
were there would be NO license necessary and each state would not have
its very own set of rules. Let's look at "age of consent" There are
Federal Statutory rape and Rape laws... In Mississippi if you are 12
and not a virgin you may legally consent to have sex as you please but
if you are a virgin that age is raised to 16....

That means....by YOUR logic... and that which you continuously post
that all 12 year olds in the USA are being denied the "Right" to have
sex whenever they please and with whom they please regardless of the
parents wishes.

Actual "marriage laws also vary.... from 13 -21 depending on the state
and whether or not the female is pregnant and whether or not parental/
judicial consent exists... while under "codified federal law
(Washington) at 16 ONLY with parental consent and at 18 without.



On Feb 14, 10:04 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wrong again, Markie.
>
> As long as the govrnment codifies civil marriage, all people must be
> includid in those laws equally, regardless of gender.
>
> Anything less is discriminatory, and a civil rights violation.
>
> The Federal Government offers many important benefits to married
> couples, denied to same sex couples, even married ones, such as joint
> tax returns, social security, survivor benefits, tax benefits, joint
> property benefits, estate and survivorship benefits, employment
> benefits, etc. etc. etc.
>
> The number is 1,342 I believe. All are important.
>
> On 2/14/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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> > Tommy,
>
> > In the past you posted the list of 2462 "protections"... the vast
> > majority were memberships in things like military wives clubs (never
> > gonna happen) etc.;
>
> > Why do you persist in posting items that contain outright lies ?? This
> > only damages your cause. Further, marriage is a STATE licensed
> > "activity..... just like driving a car or a building permit.... Each
> > state has the prerogative to set up their  own guidelines for their
> > license departments. Marriage is not a "RIGHT".
>
> > On Feb 14, 9:12 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Love, always: Same-sex couples should have the right to marry in New York
>
> >> On this Valentine’s Day — a day dedicated to love — chances are better
> >> than they have ever been that marriage equality will become law in New
> >> York state this year. But it is far from assured.
>
> >> A bill that would have legalized same-sex marriage was defeated in the
> >> Senate at the end of 2009. Andrew Cuomo made its passage a plank in
> >> his gubernatorial campaign platform. The new governor mentioned it in
> >> his first State of the State address in January. As recently as
> >> Wednesday, Cuomo reiterated his intention to pursue a vote in the
> >> state Legislature within the next few months.
>
> >> “We’ll be working very hard to pass it,” he told reporters after a
> >> speech at Hofstra University.
>
> >> The measure, perennially passed by the state Assembly, failed in the
> >> Senate
> >> by a 38-24 vote in December 2009. Every Republican senator voted no;
> >> they were joined by eight Democrats, who were then in the majority.
>
> >> Despite Cuomo’s support, the bill’s prospects this time around are
> >> even muddier. The Senate has flipped back to Republican control, and
> >> although Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos opposes legalizing
> >> same-sex marriage, he has said he would not block a vote on the
> >> legislation.
>
> >> Advocates for marriage equality have public opinion on their side. In
> >> late January, a Quinnipiac University poll found New York state voters
> >> support legislation allowing same-sex couples to marry by 56 percent
> >> to 37 percent. That was the highest approval margin ever for that
> >> poll, and represents an astonishing turnaround from 2004, when New
> >> Yorkers opposed gay marriage 55 percent to 37 percent.
>
> >> The tide may be turning as more people view same-sex marriage through
> >> the prism of civil rights. Civil marriage — and the 2,462 protections
> >> and responsibilities conferred by it — is a right that all other New
> >> Yorkers enjoy. Denying those protections to committed, loving gay
> >> couples because of their sexual orientation is increasingly seen as an
> >> injustice.
>
> >> It is important to make the distinction between civil marriage and
> >> religious marriage. Civil marriage does not require the blessing of
> >> any religious institution, and no religious institution would be
> >> required to perform gay marriages under legislation permitting civil
> >> same-sex marriage.
>
> >> Marriage binds loving couples. It’s time that extended to same-sex
> >> couples in New York.
>
> >> More:http://blog.syracuse.com/opinion/2011/02/lov_always_same-sex_couples_...
> >> --
> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> >> Have a great day,
> >> Tommy
>
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> Tommy

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