Tommy, That sort of post will have me pushing a permanent and irreversible button. Address the issues and the post.
I see that you have seen it unwise to pose an actual argument to my last post that goes to the very core of your "issue"...federal codification or the lack there-of. On Feb 14, 11:02 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Wrong again Keithie. > > Your twisted pretzel glue right wing glue logic is both illogical and > homophobic, as usual. > > On 2/14/11, Keith In Köln <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wrong again, Markie. > > > As long as the govrnment codifies civil marriage, all people must be > > includid in those laws equally, regardless of gender. > > > ============== > > > This is once again, where you are misguided, and purposely so Tom. > > > You have the "right" to go and marry anyone that you so choose! Just as I > > do, and each and every other man and woman do.... > > > You can go and marry any woman that you so choose, as long as she is > > competent, and of legal age. > > > What you are proposing is to add "additional rights" to a select and > > privileged class of people, based on their sexual proclivities. In other > > words, you are attempting to redefine the definition of marriage. > > > Not gonna happen. > > > Anything less is discriminatory, and a civil rights violation. > > > The Federal Government offers many important benefits to married > > couples, denied to same sex couples, even married ones, such as joint > > tax returns, social security, survivor benefits, tax benefits, joint > > property benefits, estate and survivorship benefits, employment > > benefits, etc. etc. etc. > > > The number is 1,342 I believe. All are important. > > >> On 2/14/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Tommy, > > >> > In the past you posted the list of 2462 "protections"... the vast > >> > majority were memberships in things like military wives clubs (never > >> > gonna happen) etc.; > > >> > Why do you persist in posting items that contain outright lies ?? This > >> > only damages your cause. Further, marriage is a STATE licensed > >> > "activity..... just like driving a car or a building permit.... Each > >> > state has the prerogative to set up their own guidelines for their > >> > license departments. Marriage is not a "RIGHT". > > >> > On Feb 14, 9:12 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Love, always: Same-sex couples should have the right to marry in New > >> York > > >> >> On this Valentine’s Day — a day dedicated to love — chances are better > >> >> than they have ever been that marriage equality will become law in New > >> >> York state this year. But it is far from assured. > > >> >> A bill that would have legalized same-sex marriage was defeated in the > >> >> Senate at the end of 2009. Andrew Cuomo made its passage a plank in > >> >> his gubernatorial campaign platform. The new governor mentioned it in > >> >> his first State of the State address in January. As recently as > >> >> Wednesday, Cuomo reiterated his intention to pursue a vote in the > >> >> state Legislature within the next few months. > > >> >> “We’ll be working very hard to pass it,” he told reporters after a > >> >> speech at Hofstra University. > > >> >> The measure, perennially passed by the state Assembly, failed in the > >> >> Senate > >> >> by a 38-24 vote in December 2009. Every Republican senator voted no; > >> >> they were joined by eight Democrats, who were then in the majority. > > >> >> Despite Cuomo’s support, the bill’s prospects this time around are > >> >> even muddier. The Senate has flipped back to Republican control, and > >> >> although Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos opposes legalizing > >> >> same-sex marriage, he has said he would not block a vote on the > >> >> legislation. > > >> >> Advocates for marriage equality have public opinion on their side. In > >> >> late January, a Quinnipiac University poll found New York state voters > >> >> support legislation allowing same-sex couples to marry by 56 percent > >> >> to 37 percent. That was the highest approval margin ever for that > >> >> poll, and represents an astonishing turnaround from 2004, when New > >> >> Yorkers opposed gay marriage 55 percent to 37 percent. > > >> >> The tide may be turning as more people view same-sex marriage through > >> >> the prism of civil rights. Civil marriage — and the 2,462 protections > >> >> and responsibilities conferred by it — is a right that all other New > >> >> Yorkers enjoy. Denying those protections to committed, loving gay > >> >> couples because of their sexual orientation is increasingly seen as an > >> >> injustice. > > >> >> It is important to make the distinction between civil marriage and > >> >> religious marriage. Civil marriage does not require the blessing of > >> >> any religious institution, and no religious institution would be > >> >> required to perform gay marriages under legislation permitting civil > >> >> same-sex marriage. > > >> >> Marriage binds loving couples. It’s time that extended to same-sex > >> >> couples in New York. > > >> >> More: > >>http://blog.syracuse.com/opinion/2011/02/lov_always_same-sex_couples_... > >> >> -- > >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> >> Have a great day, > >> >> Tommy > > >> > -- > >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> > * Visit our other community at > >> >http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > >> -- > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> Have a great day, > >> Tommy > > >> -- > >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >> * Visit our other community at > >>http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
