To repeat yet again, civil marriage is distinct and separate from religious marriage. ------------------------------------
How? ------------------------------------- The tough ones are a bitch On Feb 21, 10:15 am, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > To repeat yet again, civil marriage is distinct and separate from > religious marriage. > ------------------------------------ > > How? > > On Feb 17, 11:08 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Wrong again. > > > Civil unions are lesser, unequal contracts which do not provide the > > same rights and benefits as civil marriage. Second class unequal > > citizenship is unacceptable. > > > To repeat yet again, civil marriage is distinct and separate from > > religious marriage. > > > Marriage equality is coming. Embrace it. > > > On 2/17/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Tommy, > > > > Hurray for Hawaii !!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > I hope you realize that no one on this forum has anything against > > > Civil Unions that are co-equal in all ways with "MARRIAGE". > > > > I do have a MAJOR problem with "MARRIAGE" being allowed for same sex > > > individuals, as does the dictionary and even the bible.... here is the > > > verse that the "Wedding Song" is based on... > > > > Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Wives, > > > submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the > > > husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the > > > church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is > > > subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in > > > every thing. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the > > > church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it > > > with the washing of water by the word. That he might present it to > > > himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such > > > thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. So ought men to > > > love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth > > > himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and > > > cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: For we are members of his > > > body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave > > > his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two > > > shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning > > > Christ and the church. Nevertheless let everyone of you in particular > > > so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence > > > her husband. > > > --Ephesians 5:21-33 > > > > The bible does NOT say that two men (or women) should not be legally > > > joined. Just don't use a word (marriage) that has obvious religious > > > overtones to describe it. > > > > On Feb 17, 8:59 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Hawaii lawmakers approve civil unions for gay couples > > > >> Hawaii state legislators on Wednesday approved civil unions for gay > > >> couples, and Gov. Neil Abercrombie said he would sign it into law. > > > >> The Hawaii Senate approved the proposed law by a vote of 18-5, sending > > >> it to Abercrombie for his signature. It had earlier been approved by > > >> the House. > > > >> Throughout his campaign last fall, Abercrombie said he supported laws > > >> giving same-sex couples in civil unions the same rights, benefits, > > >> protections and responsibilities of spouses in a marriage. > > > >> "I have always believed that civil unions respect our diversity, > > >> protect people's privacy, and reinforce our core values of equality > > >> and aloha," Abercrombie said in a statement after the vote. "For me > > >> this bill represents equal rights for all the people of Hawaii." > > > >> The law Abercrombie will sign is essentially the same as the measure > > >> that then-Governor Linda Lingle, a Republican, vetoed in July when she > > >> cited a "flawed" legal process as her reason for not giving her > > >> approval. > > > >> It would make the Aloha State the seventh state to grant essentially > > >> the same rights of marriage to same-sex couples through civil unions > > >> or similar laws. > > > >> Five U.S. states and the District of Columbia issue marriage licenses > > >> to same-sex couples, according to the National Conference of State > > >> Legislatures. New Jersey allows civil unions. > > > >> As lawmakers debated the measure, residents from both sides of the > > >> issue packed the gallery. Those supporting Civil Unions wore rainbow > > >> silk-flowered lei. After the vote, the gallery erupted in cheers and > > >> clapping. > > > >> Republican Sen. Sam Slom urged his fellow members to vote against it > > >> because he said the government has no business mandating marriages. > > > >> Tara O'Neill, president of the gay activist group Pride Alliance > > >> praised the measure. > > > >> "I have a great sense of pride for the Legislature that was able to > > >> see the big picture of equality for Hawaii," O'Neill said. > > > >> (Editing by Dan Whitcomb) > > > >> More:http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/17/us-hawaii-gays-idUSTRE71G06... > > > >> -- > > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > >> Have a great day, > > >> Tommy > > > > -- > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > Have a great day, > > Tommy- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
