No. Every SENTENCE of my New Constitution speaks volumes! You don't have the smarts to objectively discuss anything with anyone! — J. A. A. —
On Mar 17, 9:00 pm, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > > If someone is proposing to change the Constitution under which I am > forced to live, I would - if at all possible - like some input into the > creation of that document. > > The fact that you deem yourself to be exempt from any input or > questioning regarding YOUR New Constitution speaks volumes. > > On 03/17/2011 05:44 PM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jonathan: Be assured that nothing you say nor do, now or later, will > > give you any sway over the content of my New Constitution. Do this: > > For the next 14 years, write your own version of a US constitution. > > Maybe then you will have learned to be a bit more respecting of > > others. � J. A. A. � > > On Mar 16, 3:38 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> As usual, "no specifics are open for discussion." What an ego this guy > >> has. Mustn't let anyone ask any questions. His head might explode. > > >> On 03/16/2011 11:53 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > > >>> Folks: The vast majority of the still apt portions of our original > >>> Constitution remains within my New Constitution. Issues relating to > >>> having government be deferential to the people, and placing reasonable > >>> limits of the type and scope of the laws that may be passed, is the > >>> subject of much that I have expanded on in my New Constitution. I've > >>> placed great importance on seeing to it that the corruption in > >>> government�state, local and federal�which I have observed first hand, > >>> shall never again negatively impact any law-abiding citizen. > >>> There are dozens of well-defined, unconstitutional acts by government > >>> employees or elected officials that will either get the persons fired > >>> or sent to prison. Working for government, even for the President, is > >>> not a license to violate laws, or to have privileges that good > >>> citizens don't have. Other than my eliminating the unconstitutional > >>> (in the SPIRIT) US Senate, and excluding 'career politicians', > >>> lobbyists and elitist media from ever setting foot in the Capital, the > >>> changes in the daily operation of government won�t be too obvious to > >>> most Americans. > >>> Not specifically written into the New Constitution, I am personally > >>> recommending that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Unemployment > >>> Insurance ALL be privatized�while continuing to "cover" only those > >>> older or sicker people who have no other means of surviving or of > >>> getting first rate care. When most taxes and restrictions on the FAIR > >>> operation of businesses in this country have been removed, the US > >>> economy will experience a BOOM so large, that most people will be > >>> making enough money (Prosperity!) to provide for their own futures > >>> without needing to look to government for any handouts. > >>> The next sentence will assure that socialism�now closely associated > >>> with the Democratic Party�will never again influence any future action > >>> taken by government: "Fair play and democracy shall have supremacy in > >>> the USA!" Those in government employment must swear, on penalty of > >>> death, to agree with that one sentence and to act accordingly. > >>> Democrats, who consistently want better things without requiring any > >>> work on their part, must learn that they will get no more free lunches > >>> or free medical care. It is my sincere hope that the hard-core 40% of > >>> socialist democrats in this country will realize that they will be far > >>> better off working in an efficient capitalist economy than from > >>> continuing to seek government-doled, socialist mediocrity. > >>> I invite the readers to comment on the general people-oriented-tone of > >>> my document. *** However, no specifics are open for discussion. *** > >>> � John A. Armistead � Patriot > >>> On Mar 15, 9:36 pm, NoEinstein<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Folks: I've now presented over 50% of my New Constitution. That, > >>>> plus the following, should give you a good idea of the love and > >>>> devotion I've put into this long project. My efforts, aided by > >>>> computer, exceed the combined total time spent by the actual > >>>> contributers to writing the original Constitution by a factor of ten. > >>>> At each step, I asked myself what the Founding Fathers would say. I'd > >>>> bet they are happy people! > >>>> "Article VI: > >>>> Section 1, 2, 3, 4& 5: Laws in effect at the time of the adoption of > >>>> this New Constitution shall remain in effect while such are > >>>> systematically reviewed, debated and revoted in the House. Whether > >>>> for the revoting of existing laws and regulations or for new bills, > >>>> early and conspicuous public notice in the media shall invite Public > >>>> input. Bills passing without broad and substantiated Public input, > >>>> especially by those law-abiding Citizens most affected by the > >>>> legislation, shall not become laws. The House shall make new laws and > >>>> define procedures for implementing this New Constitution. Federal > >>>> functions to be returned to local or state governments shall be phased > >>>> out gradually and considerately for those to be displaced or relo- > >>>> cated. Under this New Constitution the future state taxes of Citizens > >>>> or businesses, typically, shall not exceed their com-bined former > >>>> total of state and federal taxes. At any level of services provided, > >>>> streamlining government and minimizing bureaucracy via wise laws shall > >>>> always be primary goals. > >>>> Local, state and federal law enforcement, the courts, or any > >>>> branch or branches of the military or their respective parts shall at > >>>> no time be used in support of corruption in government by any public > >>>> official(s) at any level. Legal authority of law enforcement or the > >>>> courts over the Citizens is voided if used in support of corruption. > >>>> Local, state and federal law en-forcement agencies shall not be > >>>> organizationally affiliated, and persons or groups, therein, shall not > >>>> be presumed by law enforcement to be acting lawfully solely because of > >>>> such auspices. > >>>> All local, state and federal officer holders and employees�upon > >>>> taking office or assuming employment�shall take the following oath: > >>>> �I, (Name), promise to serve and be deferential to the People, and to > >>>> be unbiased toward any group with a pro democracy, pro fairness > >>>> ideology. I swear to honor and uphold the full civil rights of the > >>>> citizens, as guaranteed by the Constitution, and I shall expect my > >>>> coworkers and superiors to do the same. I understand that my > >>>> employment in or by government is conditional upon my adherence to > >>>> this oath.� No employee nor office holder shall be sanctioned for > >>>> making complaints against another office holder, employee or > >>>> superior. No government employee nor office holder shall be coerced > >>>> into wrongdoing, immoral action or non action, or illegality by a real > >>>> or implied threat of the loss of one�s job, promotion or benefits, nor > >>>> by any bribe or promise of promotion or benefits. Making such a > >>>> threat, bribe or promise is a felony carrying a minimum ten year > >>>> prison sentence�and if part of a pattern�making such threats, bribes > >>>> or promises is treason. Acqui-escing to such is a felony. Government > >>>> officials, agents or employees who become aware of corruption in > >>>> government or in any of its departments shall notify the Executive > >>>> Branch and the courts; willful failure to do so is a felony. With > >>>> impunity, a government officer(s) or employee(s) shall enforce no law > >>>> nor perform any order or directive which violates their personal moral > >>>> conscience or their oath. > >>>> Local governments shall have 10 or more councilmen or a direct > >>>> vote of the People is required to pass ordinances or raise taxes. > >>>> Upon request by the Executive or 1/5 of the larger governing body, > >>>> federal, state or local law making authority shall defer to the People > >>>> on controversial issues where the Will of the People is in doubt. No > >>>> law nor previous or subsequent vote on any issue shall usurp the right > >>>> of an informed Public to decide controversial issues in direct > >>>> referenda; the vote for passage shall be 60%. The apt macro-Will of > >>>> the People in elections or referenda, as manifested by their votes, > >>>> shall take precedence over any contrary existing or subsequent law, > >>>> governmental hierarchy or judicial ruling. Because conditions change, > >>>> older laws aren�t necessarily the Will of the People. > >>>> Laws shall be concise and well defined. If�due to brevity, > >>>> simplicity or lack of foresight, etc.�such laws have consequences > >>>> outside the intended or implied scope, for justice and expediency, a > >>>> judge may decree rightful, specific exceptions without new > >>>> legislation. Only laws, rules, regulations and procedures that are in > >>>> the best interest of the People and the world environment shall be > >>>> passed, enacted or enforced, and no business contrary to such shall be > >>>> allowed to prosper. No business, organization nor alliance shall use > >>>> their auspices to sway the House for selfish gain. No business shall > >>>> exist that uses computer invasion to coerce sales or to monitor others� > >>>> regardless of any disclaimer or pact. There shall be no > >>>> discrimination against any law-abiding Citizen, business or > >>>> organization due to arbitrary categorization. No public nor private > >>>> regulation shall require disclosure of a person�s stand or vote on any > >>>> issue which might cause them discrimination. Laws shall respect the > >>>> People�s diverse mores without setting arbitrary social standards. No > >>>> government shall criminalize behavior that the Public considers to be > >>>> innocuous, or is macro-typical, or where government isn�t being > >>>> deferential to the Public; nor shall they: prosecute victimless crimes > >>>> other than gross > > ... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
