Jonathan: Are you saying that Civil Libertarians are... socialists? Ha, ha, HA! Your type of non-reasoning isn't appreciated, and confirms your being a socialist-communist. All who are not FOR me, in substance and in tone, are against me. Get lost squirt! — J. A. A. — > On Mar 21, 11:48 am, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > > The term "civil liberties" is socialist B.S.* > > CIVIL*, a.1. Relating to the community, or to the policy and government > of the citizens and subjects of a state; * > > LIBERTY,* n. [L. libertas, from liber, free.]1. Freedom from restraint, > in a general sense, and applicable to the body, or to the will or mind. > > You can't have freedom from restraint if you are a subject of a state. > > On 03/21/2011 07:04 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jonathan: Who is the more dictatorial, the man (me) who spends 14 > > years of his life writing a New Constitution to improve the quality of > > life for all Americans; or the person (you) who wishes to detract from > > my efforts so as to deny this country having maximum civil liberties, > > maximum order, maximum efficiency and maximum respect for the rights > > of others? You, the true socialist-communist, lose every time! � J. > > A. Armistead � Patriott > > On Mar 18, 5:51 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> The dictator speaks again! > > >> On 03/18/2011 02:44 PM, NoEinstein wrote: > > >>> No. Every SENTENCE of my New Constitution speaks volumes! You don't > >>> have the smarts to objectively discuss anything with anyone! � J. A. > >>> A. � > >>> On Mar 17, 9:00 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> John, > >>>> If someone is proposing to change the Constitution under which I am > >>>> forced to live, I would - if at all possible - like some input into the > >>>> creation of that document. > >>>> The fact that you deem yourself to be exempt from any input or > >>>> questioning regarding YOUR New Constitution speaks volumes. > >>>> On 03/17/2011 05:44 PM, NoEinstein wrote: > >>>>> Jonathan: Be assured that nothing you say nor do, now or later, will > >>>>> give you any sway over the content of my New Constitution. Do this: > >>>>> For the next 14 years, write your own version of a US constitution. > >>>>> Maybe then you will have learned to be a bit more respecting of > >>>>> others. � J. A. A. � > >>>>> On Mar 16, 3:38 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> As usual, "no specifics are open for discussion." What an ego this guy > >>>>>> has. Mustn't let anyone ask any questions. His head might explode. > >>>>>> On 03/16/2011 11:53 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > >>>>>>> Folks: The vast majority of the still apt portions of our original > >>>>>>> Constitution remains within my New Constitution. Issues relating to > >>>>>>> having government be deferential to the people, and placing reasonable > >>>>>>> limits of the type and scope of the laws that may be passed, is the > >>>>>>> subject of much that I have expanded on in my New Constitution. I've > >>>>>>> placed great importance on seeing to it that the corruption in > >>>>>>> government�state, local and federal�which I have observed first > >>>>>>> hand, > >>>>>>> shall never again negatively impact any law-abiding citizen. > >>>>>>> There are dozens of well-defined, unconstitutional acts by government > >>>>>>> employees or elected officials that will either get the persons fired > >>>>>>> or sent to prison. Working for government, even for the President, is > >>>>>>> not a license to violate laws, or to have privileges that good > >>>>>>> citizens don't have. Other than my eliminating the unconstitutional > >>>>>>> (in the SPIRIT) US Senate, and excluding 'career politicians', > >>>>>>> lobbyists and elitist media from ever setting foot in the Capital, the > >>>>>>> changes in the daily operation of government won�t be too obvious to > >>>>>>> most Americans. > >>>>>>> Not specifically written into the New Constitution, I am personally > >>>>>>> recommending that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Unemployment > >>>>>>> Insurance ALL be privatized�while continuing to "cover" only those > >>>>>>> older or sicker people who have no other means of surviving or of > >>>>>>> getting first rate care. When most taxes and restrictions on the FAIR > >>>>>>> operation of businesses in this country have been removed, the US > >>>>>>> economy will experience a BOOM so large, that most people will be > >>>>>>> making enough money (Prosperity!) to provide for their own futures > >>>>>>> without needing to look to government for any handouts. > >>>>>>> The next sentence will assure that socialism�now closely associated > >>>>>>> with the Democratic Party�will never again influence any future > >>>>>>> action > >>>>>>> taken by government: "Fair play and democracy shall have supremacy in > >>>>>>> the USA!" Those in government employment must swear, on penalty of > >>>>>>> death, to agree with that one sentence and to act accordingly. > >>>>>>> Democrats, who consistently want better things without requiring any > >>>>>>> work on their part, must learn that they will get no more free lunches > >>>>>>> or free medical care. It is my sincere hope that the hard-core 40% of > >>>>>>> socialist democrats in this country will realize that they will be far > >>>>>>> better off working in an efficient capitalist economy than from > >>>>>>> continuing to seek government-doled, socialist mediocrity. > >>>>>>> I invite the readers to comment on the general people-oriented-tone of > >>>>>>> my document. *** However, no specifics are open for discussion. *** > >>>>>>> � John A. Armistead � Patriot > >>>>>>> On Mar 15, 9:36 pm, NoEinstein<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Folks: I've now presented over 50% of my New Constitution. That, > >>>>>>>> plus the following, should give you a good idea of the love and > >>>>>>>> devotion I've put into this long project. My efforts, aided by > >>>>>>>> computer, exceed the combined total time spent by the actual > >>>>>>>> contributers to writing the original Constitution by a factor of ten. > >>>>>>>> At each step, I asked myself what the Founding Fathers would say. > >>>>>>>> I'd > >>>>>>>> bet they are happy people! > >>>>>>>> "Article VI: > >>>>>>>> Section 1, 2, 3, 4& 5: Laws in effect at the time of the > >>>>>>>> adoption of > >>>>>>>> this New Constitution shall remain in effect while such are > >>>>>>>> systematically reviewed, debated and revoted in the House. Whether > >>>>>>>> for the revoting of existing laws and regulations or for new bills, > >>>>>>>> early and conspicuous public notice in the media shall invite Public > >>>>>>>> input. Bills passing without broad and substantiated Public input, > >>>>>>>> especially by those law-abiding Citizens most affected by the > >>>>>>>> legislation, shall not become laws. The House shall make new laws > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> define procedures for implementing this New Constitution. Federal > >>>>>>>> functions to be returned to local or state governments shall be > >>>>>>>> phased > >>>>>>>> out gradually and considerately for those to be displaced or relo- > >>>>>>>> cated. Under this New Constitution the future state taxes of > >>>>>>>> Citizens > >>>>>>>> or businesses, typically, shall not exceed their com-bined former > >>>>>>>> total of state and federal taxes. At any level of services provided, > >>>>>>>> streamlining government and minimizing bureaucracy via wise laws > >>>>>>>> shall > >>>>>>>> always be primary goals. > >>>>>>>> Local, state and federal law enforcement, the courts, or any > >>>>>>>> branch or branches of the military or their respective parts shall at > >>>>>>>> no time be used in support of corruption in government by any public > >>>>>>>> official(s) at any level. Legal authority of law enforcement or the > >>>>>>>> courts over the Citizens is voided if used in support of corruption. > >>>>>>>> Local, state and federal law en-forcement agencies shall not be > >>>>>>>> organizationally affiliated, and persons or groups, therein, shall > >>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>> be presumed by law enforcement to be acting lawfully solely because > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> such auspices. > >>>>>>>> All local, state and federal officer holders and > >>>>>>>> employees�upon > >>>>>>>> taking office or assuming employment�shall take the following oath: > >>>>>>>> �I, (Name), promise to serve and be deferential to the People, and > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> be unbiased toward any group with a pro democracy, pro fairness > >>>>>>>> ideology. I swear to honor and uphold the full civil rights of the > >>>>>>>> citizens, as guaranteed by the Constitution, and I shall expect my > >>>>>>>> coworkers and superiors to do the same. I understand that my > >>>>>>>> employment in or by government is conditional upon my adherence to > >>>>>>>> this oath.� No employee nor office holder shall be sanctioned for > >>>>>>>> making complaints against another office holder, employee or > >>>>>>>> superior. No government employee nor office holder shall be coerced > >>>>>>>> into wrongdoing, immoral action or non action, or illegality by a > >>>>>>>> real > >>>>>>>> or implied threat of the loss of one�s job, promotion or benefits, > >>>>>>>> nor > >>>>>>>> by any bribe or promise of promotion or benefits. Making such a > >>>>>>>> threat, bribe or promise is a felony carrying a minimum ten year > >>>>>>>> prison sentence�and if part of a pattern�making such threats, > >>>>>>>> bribes > >>>>>>>> or promises is treason. Acqui-escing to such is a felony. > >>>>>>>> Government > >>>>>>>> officials, agents or employees who become aware of corruption in > >>>>>>>> government or in any of its departments shall notify the Executive > >>>>>>>> Branch and the courts; willful failure to do so is a felony. With > >>>>>>>> impunity, a government officer(s) or employee(s) shall enforce no law > >>>>>>>> nor perform any order or directive which violates their personal > >>>>>>>> moral > >>>>>>>> conscience or their oath. > >>>>>>>> Local governments shall have 10 or more councilmen or a > >>>>>>>> direct > >>>>>>>> vote of the People is required to pass ordinances or raise taxes. > >>>>>>>> Upon request by the Executive or 1/5 of the larger governing body, > >>>>>>>> federal, state or local law making authority shall defer to the > >>>>>>>> People > >>>>>>>> on controversial issues where the Will of the People is in doubt. No > >>>>>>>> law nor previous or subsequent vote on any issue shall usurp the > >>>>>>>> right > >>>>>>>> of an informed Public to decide controversial issues in > > ... > > read more »
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